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This site is really cool. I dont know how precise it is but most of it seems reasonable..

http://profootballfocus.com/by_posi...&pos=WR&stype=r&runpass=&teamid=-1&numgames=1

To sum it up for the game... and i know its just numbers but some of it definitely shows a lot of truths. Some helps to learn and some makes me feel like i was watching someone else lol...

Wide Recievers
-Jerrico Cotchery is playing really good football. He is one of the top WRs this year.
-Davone Bess is Mr. Reliable. He catches everything.
-Braylon Edwards still cant catch
-Ted Ginn blows

Tight Ends
-Fasano and Haynos are great run blocking Tight Ends
-Fasano is a terrible reciever
-Dustin Keller has been unimpressive as a run blocker
-Aside from one fluke game against Houston, he's been quiet

Tackles
-Vernon Carey has been a great run blocker and above average pass blocker, giving up 1 sack.
-Jake Long seems to be only average statistically both in pass and run blocking, giving up 2 sacks both in game 1.
-Damien Woody has been average in pass blocking but has given up 2 sacks. He has been abysmal run blocking.
-D'Brickashaw Ferguson has been terrible in pass protection giving up 3 sacks but has been above average as a run blocker.

Guards
-Donald Thomas has been above average as a run blocker but has been below average in pass protection. He has not given up a sack.
-Justin Smiley has been above average in pass protection but has been below average as a run blocker. He has not given up a sack.
-Brandon Moore has been terrible as a run blocker but slightly above average as a pass blocker. He has not given up a sack.
-Alan Faneca has been below average in pass protection but slightly above average as a run blocker. He has not given up a sack.

Centers
-Jake Grove is the #1 rated center
-He has been amazing in run blocking and above average in pass protection.
-Nick Mangold has also been really well as a run blocker but only average in pass protection.

Running Backs
-Ricky is the #2 rated running back.
-Ronnie is the #4 rated running back.
-Thomas Jones is the second worst back.
-Leon Washington is average to below average.

Fullbacks
-Polite has been an above average run blocker but slightly below average pass blocker.
-Tony Richardson has been average all around.

Some other tidbits...
-Darrelle Revis is the real deal. He's the best cover corner in the league.
-Sean Smith has been good but he's also given up the most yards on average per catch.
-Vontae Davis has held his own.
-Will Allen has been okay, but has been solid against the run.
-We have THREE of the top 3-4 DE's in the game. Talk about depth.
-Starks is the best against the run
-Langford has been the pest pass rusher.
-Merling has been good at both facets.
-Shaun Ellis has been good against the run but below average against the pass.
-Marques Douglas has been okay against the pass but bad against the run.
-Pouha has been above average against the run.
-Jenkins has been below average as a pass rusher but good in stopping the run.
-Both Ferguson and Soliai has been above average as run stuffers.
-Vernon Gholston has been awful in all areas.
-Oddly enough, JT has been great against the run while not very good as a pass rusher.
-JP has also been good as a run stuffer but just slightly above average as a pass rusher.
-Charlie Anderson is a terrible pass rusher.
-Ayodele and Crowder are the same guy. Both excellent against the run but terrible in pass coverage.
-David Harris is good in pass coverage and as a pass rusher but terrible against the run.
-Bryan Thomas has been outstanding against the run and good in both pass coverage and rushing the passer.
-Bart Scott has been good against the run but invisible as a pass rusher.
-Kerry Rhodes has been good in pass coverage.
-Leonhard has been good in pass coverage but bad in run support.
-Both Bell and Wilson cant cover for sh*t and Wilson is terrible in run support.
-Bell, however, is good against the run.
-Lex Hilliard and Jason Allen are two of the best special teamers in the game.
-Jets have good coverage guys too.
-Carpenter has weak kickoffs.
-Feely has had great kickoffs.
-Fields is average.
-Weatherford is below average.
-Leonhard is an above average punt returner.
-Leon Washington has been an average kick returner.
-Bess has been slightly above average as a punt returner.
-Patrick Cobbs has been bad as a kickoff returner.
 
mandal24 said:
-Marques Douglas has been okay against the pass but bad against the run.
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Run at Marques Dougles all game long.. He is an undersized 3-4 DE. He is short.

Miami's awesome young and very talented DE's are 6'7, 6'6 and 6'4.. Douglas is 6'2 and old and battered. Plus he looks like a soft fruit.

Wear that mediocre DE out. Run him out of the game so they can put their even more crappy DE backups in there.

Miami's DE rotation is SOOO much better and stronger than the Jets DE rotation.. All Jets fans talk about is Jenkins, but their DE's are not that good. That's why Jets fans are all crying for a DE in the first round of next year's draft on their message boards... Look at their message boards, they all want DE's, because they know it's a weakness to their D.

Their weakness is one of our biggest strengths.

Grove will handle Jenkins like Grove handled him last year... After we run Douglas's way over and over, beating him up to a pulp, with Ellis getting tired having to run over there every play, then run at Ellis's huffing and puffing tired sorry a$$.

They'll all be worn out somewhere around the 3rd quarter.. And their backups suck.. They don't have a great D-line rotation like we do.. They have no depth.. We have Merling, Starks, Soliai, Ferguson, McDaniel and Langford, Dotson on the D-line.. The jets don't have close to that overall talent and depth on the D-line.

The Colts had more depth on the D-line than the Jets do. The Colts added a couple 300 pounders at DT this off season, plus the other guys they had. They have depth, that's why their run defense has only given up 64 yards per game in their other 3 games (good enough for top 5 in the league).. Against us - 240 yards rushing.

When the Jets start bringing in their sucky D-line backups, with their starters willing to kill for a breather on the sideline sucking the oxygen masks, that's when we really maul that overrated defense of theirs.

Just watch.

And oh yeah, do you think Pace will be in shape for the kind of game we are going to throw at them ?? I think not.. He'll be alongside Jenkins and Douglas sucking air on the sideline somewhere in the 3rd quarter

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Interesting quick takes. Which website is this from? I did not see a link :)
 
yeah that site is interesting... one thing of note for everyone who goes there, do not look at the overall because its not a good barometer... narrow out down to the specifics to get a better analysis

one thing i thought was interesting was Paul Soliai was actually playing better against the run than Jason Ferguson, though im not too surprised, Soliai has been playing great when hes been in there
 
another thing of note, they haven't processed the Phins bills game yet, so those stats/rankings aren't in the overalls yet, and you know that'll only boost up dolphins related numbers
 
arsenal said:
another thing of note, they haven't processed the Phins bills game yet, so those stats/rankings aren't in the overalls yet, and you know that'll only boost up dolphins related numbers
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Spot on ... the rankings we've done for the Dolphins so far have been for games they've lost ... the Bills game should be up within a couple of days (by tomorrow I imagine)

I've done PP for two Jets game so spent about 11 hours watching them ... I will say they aren't quite as unpredictable as their defence would make out, with game tape lending itself to predicting what type of defence they are going to use and when they'll use it (you can almost sense when and where they'll bring the blitz from at times).

I've been extremely disappointed with the right side of their line in the games I saw. They were the best in the league last year and this year not so hot - as for Sanchez, clutch but inconsistent. Better than he should be, but not the player people have made him out to be. I certainly wouldn't look at him on the level of Ryan/ Flacco in anything other than his leadership skills.

I'm still amazed teams are throwing at Darrelle Revis. He's pretty shutdown (he's no Corey Webster mind) but teams keep thinking there are throws to be made on him. I'd consider just ignoring his side of the field, but if you keep going after him he gets in a rhythm of sorts ... got to try and catch him cold almost ... make him not expect the throw.

I'm really looking forward to this game. May ask to do it for PP to really get into it, and I don't see why Miami can't win.

Arsenal ... are you by any chance an Arsenal fan? Boo if so!

But you make a good point about breaking down the barometers - especially at this early stage of the season, I'd advise everyone to do that.
 
no not a soccer fan here, haha my name has nothing to do with that...

but as for RBs, when you look at just Rushing... Ronnie is 3rd in the league, Ricky 14th, and even Cobbs is there at 24th... ahead of any Jet... Leon at 70, Thomas Jones at 98, ouch... also Ronnie has the 2nd most missed tackles against (either avoided or broken) and again thats not even counting last game, so hes probably number 1 right now...
 
namdi asomagh or w/e is the best corner in the nfl still, he's only been thrown at 5 times this year!?! how is that even possible.
 
Smith21 said:
namdi asomagh or w/e is the best corner in the nfl still, he's only been thrown at 5 times this year!?! how is that even possible.
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It was the same last year, he was thrown at 30 times throughout the season.

Teams are scared of him its that simple. But teams should be scared of Corey Webster and Darrelle Revis as well. Throwing in their direction is asking for trouble (people are starting to realise this with Webster, thrown at 9 times for just 3 receptions). I havent seen much of Champ recently but probablythrow his name into the mix and those are the shutdown corners in the NFL.
 
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