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Is belief in Tannehill a requirement for a legitimate shot at the Head Coach vacancy?

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Because if it is that scares me and I'll tell you why. I'll start off by saying that in the right system Tannehill could be successful. But what do you think coaching candidates' perspective on Ryan Tannehill is? Do you think coaches see him as a reason to take job or a potential obstacle?

My fear is that our front office tries to force Tannehill onto the next coach and that is a deal breaker for certain coaches. I don't want to end up with some desperate coach. So my questions to you guys: what do you think the opinion is on Ryan Tannehill to potential coaching candidates AND do you think that in order to land the Head Coach vacancy you have to be sold on Tannehill as the answer at QB?
 
Absolutely not. You think only we can see Tannehill is not the guy? Sure the current coaches believe in him but they only have a 5% chance of being here next season. Surely the FO/Ross and his people have questions about Ryan. I hear his contract has some outs.

Our next coach will most likely give Ryan a fair chance but we should certainly draft a QB worthy of being selected with a 2nd or 3rd if we we're smart. Even a 4th but anything lower would be a cop-out. Don't tell me Ryan will be competing against a 6th round pick.....



Also we can trade the guy. He can be great but it will take equally great coaches. Miami just can't reel them in.
 
roy_miami said:
Its a big concern for me and it rarely works out.
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Same here. I can't see a well respected, sought after coach choosing us if he's told Ryan is definitely the starter unless that guy believes in Ryan. Definitely reason for legitimate concern if you ask me.
 
No they don't have to believe in him but it would be downright stupid not to at least see what you have. And it's also stupid as hell the way some around here act like he sucks so bad, yadda yadda yadda but this doesn't need to turn into a debate over Tannehill. Moronic to think these two years under lazor are all him, despite all the strides he's made since year 1. But yeah he sucks, doesn't know how to audible, better off with Moore, etc..

(Some) People are nuts around here but whatever
 
I would have to think the FO will tell the next HC..

Look the kid is young, has lots of talent and we invested alot of time and money into him. It would be a huge favor to us if you can ATLEAST invest 1 season into him. If it works out win/win for everyone. If not, then you're free to choose anyone you want for the position after your 1st season.
 
Who did Romo eventually take the job from? Wasn't he a UFDA?

I think QBs are risky to draft high cuz they have zero value if they're not good, unless you draft a running QB who at least has the athleticism to effectively play ST. Other position players can be average and be a useful roster spot taker.

Ultimately, Tannehill has value because he's a bloody physical specimen. Any coach is gonna come in and think he'll be the guy to make RT successful because of those metrics.
That, plus RT has yet to have a competent OC. Both the ones he's had have installed college offenses that handcuff the QB.
Give RT a legit NFL system and even adequate protection and he'll be a top-10 player because of his physical tools, alone.
Let's not forget; he is improving. He's throwing the best deep balls of his life.
 
oh I see what you mean....

Chuck Willie said:
Because if it is that scares me and I'll tell you why. I'll start off by saying that in the right system Tannehill could be successful. But what do you think coaching candidates' perspective on Ryan Tannehill is? Do you think coaches see him as a reason to take job or a potential obstacle?

My fear is that our front office tries to force Tannehill onto the next coach and that is a deal breaker for certain coaches. I don't want to end up with some desperate coach. So my questions to you guys: what do you think the opinion is on Ryan Tannehill to potential coaching candidates AND do you think that in order to land the Head Coach vacancy you have to be sold on Tannehill as the answer at QB?
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All those other head coaching candidates had a long list of above average quarterbacks when they took the job! smh!
 
I don't think so, I think most coaches will be willing to give Tannehill a shot based on his skill set, but they're not going to say "you need to work with Tanny or we aren't going with you". I mean contrary to popular belief on Finheaven, many in the league don't see Tanny as a lost cause.
 
IMO having RT is an advantage for the next coach because the new coach will at least have a starting point. Having a potential ... and I did say potential not guarantee ... QB in place will make it easier for the next HC to join us
 
Travis34 said:
No they don't have to believe in him but it would be downright stupid not to at least see what you have. And it's also stupid as hell the way some around here act like he sucks so bad, yadda yadda yadda but this doesn't need to turn into a debate over Tannehill. Moronic to think these two years under lazor are all him, despite all the strides he's made since year 1. But yeah he sucks, doesn't know how to audible, better off with Moore, etc..

(Some) People are nuts around here but whatever
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I don't know if this is a shot at me man, but I didn't make this thread to troll man. I'm usually very vocal about my criticism of Tannehill partially because he hasn't played well this year and part of Its frustration. But its a legitimate question. I know a lot of coaches like to hand pick their own QB, I'm worried that the FO forcing Tannehill on potential coaching candidates will seriously limit our choices. Or maybe I'm way off base. Perhaps a lot of coaches see potential in him and think they can get him on the right path.. Just wondering what people think
 
Ross probably will prop up Tannehill to the team's detriment. He did the same when hiring a new coach and requiring that they work with Ireland. Tannehill may turn out to be great because he has all the tools like many believe but right now he is average. It's taken him 4 years to progress into being average. At this rate of progression he'll need 2 years to be above average and who has the patience for that
 
dcm said:
All those other head coaching candidates had a long list of above average quarterbacks when they took the job! smh!
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Thanks for the sarcasm bro. What don't you try to contribute to the dialogue or kick rocks buddy? Its not a given that a head coach would want to stick with Tannehill, alot of guys like choosing their own QB to attach their name to
 
Chuck Willie said:
I don't know if this is a shot at me man, but I didn't make this thread to troll man. I'm usually very vocal about my criticism of Tannehill partially because he hasn't played well this year and part of Its frustration. But its a legitimate question. I know a lot of coaches like to hand pick their own QB, I'm worried that the FO forcing Tannehill on potential coaching candidates will seriously limit our choices. Or maybe I'm way off base. Perhaps a lot of coaches see potential in him and think they can get him on the right path.. Just wondering what people think
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The potential available coaches (any top ones) will look at everything before accepting a job since they will be in demand. The QB will be a part of that but my thought would be a talented head coach would look at our QB situation as an 'opportunity' not an obstacle because he will be confident in his abilities to bring the best out of the QB, kinda like we're seeeig with QB improvement around the league (Dalton, Pamler, Cutler ....).

There could be a situation where a quality coach maybe sees a little better opportunity with a high draft prospect at QB or a good QB on a roster he is walking into but don't really see that working out that way this year off of the top of my head at moment but it's still a little early also.

I also don't see Ross saying you 'must' keep RT, not sure what MiKe T's thoughts may be.
 
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