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Is Cam Wake Our Best Pass Rusher Ever?

AFCMiamiEast said:
Jason Taylor is 6th all time in sack count...not just franchise numbers, in NFL history...period. Cam would have a great chance at chasing him if he came into the league in this form several years ago, but based off rushing the passer alone...it has to be JT.
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Sucks that he was basically 28 before he was a factor
 
Cam is a very good pass rusher but Jason Taylor altered games repeatedly as a pass rusher.
 
AFCMiamiEast said:
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Amazing play..
but as you can see we are sending Jones and Wheeler neither one got any pressure... :(
 
cafinfan408 said:
Amazing play..
but as you can see we are sending Jones and Wheeler neither one got any pressure... :(
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I do not know what was with Jones last year. it was like he got paid and all his inner drive went away. seems to be determined this year. we will see
 
I'd take Betters over Porter in a heartbeat...I could care less about his 17-sack year!

Betters could defense the run...Porter was pathetic against the run.
 
Answers yes cam wake is the best...at least that I have ever seen...I can't imagine anybody had better pure pass rush tools than cam wake...I know Jason Taylor didnt

Joey porter :sidelol:
 
fishfanmiami said:
Here is who is after Taylor on our all time sack list. Wake should easily move up to second if he stays healthy.

Jeff Cross (59.5)—Defensive end Jeff Cross played for the Dolphins his entire career, from 1988 to 1995. He ranks second in franchise history with 59.5 sacks, and had arguably his best season in 1990, when he made the Pro Bowl with a career high 11.5 sacks, and added 3 forced fumbles, 2 fumble recoveries and 60 tackles.

Trace Armstrong (56.5)—Defensive end Trace Armstrong played in Miami from 1995 to 2000, and he ranks third in team history with 56.5 sacks. Armstrong had perhaps his best season in 2000, when he made the Pro Bowl. That year, Armstrong had a career high 16.5 sacks, and added 7 forced fumbles (also career best), 24 tackles and 10 assists.

Cam Wake with 51.5

Doug Betters (43.5)—Defensive end Doug Betters played for the Dolphins his entire career, from 1978 to 1987, and he ranks fourth in the team’s history with 43.5 sacks. He had his best season in 1983, when he was a first team All Pro. That year, Betters had a career high 16 sacks, and added four fumble recoveries.
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I would rank Trace Armstrong ahead of Jeff Cross only because of that game against Oakland. Three straight sacks inside the 5 yard line to seal the game. Never saw that before.
 
Stanfill's name was not on the sack rankings I got from Google because sacks were not an official stat back then but he was outstanding and unofficially in second place as far as numbers. Betters maybe the best all around DE we ever had but the best pass rushers to me in order are JT , Cam and Trace Armstrong who averaged 10 sacks a year the five years he spent in Miami.
The older guys definitely were much better run stoppers as there were few strictly pass rusher in the league back then.
You know the good ole days when teams actually ran the ball :)
 
fishfanmiami said:
Stanfill's name was not on the sack rankings I got from Google because sacks were not an official stat back then but he was outstanding and unofficially in second place as far as numbers. Betters maybe the best all around DE we ever had but the best pass rushers to me in order are JT , Cam and Trace Armstrong who averaged 10 sacks a year the five years he spent in Miami.
The older guys definitely were much better run stoppers as there were few strictly pass rusher in the league back then.
You know the good ole days when teams actually ran the ball :)
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Great point about the run stopping. Those guys, Stanfil Armstrong, Betters played 60 minutes.
JT also had the ability to play LB or DE. The hybrid scheme made him special.
 
fishfanmiami said:
Stanfill's name was not on the sack rankings I got from Google because sacks were not an official stat back then but he was outstanding and unofficially in second place as far as numbers. Betters maybe the best all around DE we ever had but the best pass rushers to me in order are JT , Cam and Trace Armstrong who averaged 10 sacks a year the five years he spent in Miami.
The older guys definitely were much better run stoppers as there were few strictly pass rusher in the league back then.
You know the good ole days when teams actually ran the ball :)
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You mean back before Marcia and all the "don't touch the QB, you might hurt his pu***!" rules? Good ole days indeed.
 
JT no 1
CW no 2
Stanfill no 3

Honorable mention: trace Armstrong, Doug Betters and the guy you boys are all forgetting about - Vern DenHerder. 64.5 unofficial sacks - at 6'6" he was disruptive.
 
fishfanmiami said:
Here is who is after Taylor on our all time sack list. Wake should easily move up to second if he stays healthy.

Jeff Cross (59.5)—Defensive end Jeff Cross played for the Dolphins his entire career, from 1988 to 1995. He ranks second in franchise history with 59.5 sacks, and had arguably his best season in 1990, when he made the Pro Bowl with a career high 11.5 sacks, and added 3 forced fumbles, 2 fumble recoveries and 60 tackles.

Trace Armstrong (56.5)—Defensive end Trace Armstrong played in Miami from 1995 to 2000, and he ranks third in team history with 56.5 sacks. Armstrong had perhaps his best season in 2000, when he made the Pro Bowl. That year, Armstrong had a career high 16.5 sacks, and added 7 forced fumbles (also career best), 24 tackles and 10 assists.

Cam Wake with 51.5

Doug Betters (43.5)—Defensive end Doug Betters played for the Dolphins his entire career, from 1978 to 1987, and he ranks fourth in the team’s history with 43.5 sacks. He had his best season in 1983, when he was a first team All Pro. That year, Betters had a career high 16 sacks, and added four fumble recoveries.
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as a kid I remember watching Vern DenHerder get after the QB quite a bit as well but he's evaded the list for the same reason as Stanfill. Played from '71-'82 so his 64.5 sacks are unofficial. For the younger guys, you may recognize him ironically enough as the guy who was dragging Ken Stabler to the ground in the '74 playoff game where the Snake heaved a desperation duck just a gnats nut sack before his knees touched the ground. Somehow, the guy caught the ball for the winning TD despite the fact we has like 17 defenders around him. I still say the D let up or relaxed as it really looked like the knees were down. DenHerder could flat play though.
 
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