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Is Hickey being a bit overrated by Dolphin fans?

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I continually see praise heaped upon Hickey around here, with some going so far to say he is untouchable and should even be given the ability to hire his own coach. But has his performance really earned him that status?

First, let me say that I don't dislike Hickey and he has exceeded my expectations so far. He certainly has a better personality than Ireland and I believe that is a plus when it comes to the GM role. But with that being said, I feel that he has been a bit overhyped based on only 2 draft picks (James and Landry) and early returns on an FA class that is now all injured.

All of his FA pickups are injured, as was their MO before signing.

His reputation appears to have been built on two solid early round picks (Landry and James), the rest of the draft hasn't contributed much if at all. Billy Turner was a high pick and hasn't even dressed all year. We haven't heard diddly squat about the other picks since preseason.

Let's not forget that the much maligned Ireland actually had a solid track record in the first round outside of Dion Jordan. His weakness was the 2nd round, so at least Hickey has shown something there. But Ireland's drafts always found contributors in the late rounds (like Jones, Jenkins, etc) while none of Hickey's have shown that yet.

I will commend Hickey for repairing the the disastrous OL situation as best he could, and must say that his performance has exceeded my expectations so far, but I think some of you are getting a bit head of yourselves in your praise of Hickey as GM. He really hasn't proven anything yet...

If we dig up threads after Ireland's first year, everyone was praising his first draft a year after. A lot can change in a few years. A year after that, that same draft looked like a complete bust.

When I look at this year's squad, the main contributors to the team's performance are still Ireland's guys. The only Hickey guys to really contribute this year were Albert, James and Landry.

I love those guys, but should we really be handing the keys to the kingdom to a guy whose main claim to fame is picking 2 solid tackles and a great slot receiver?

EDIT: I understand Hickey is probably the least of our worries right now, just wanted to have an honest conversation about his performance so far and whether it truly warrants an untouchable status.
 
I think Hickey has been solid. Our first 2 picks will be very good long term starters. We also have seen some production from Tripp and Aikens, with Hazel on the PS, and Lynch coming off of IR next year.

The injured FA signings, which I am sure someone will mention, isnt a big deal to me. The 3 of the 4 free agents that are injured have essential 1 year deals (Finnegan only had 1 year guaranteed in his contract). Their injury histories were accounted for in the length of the contracts. And other than LT, there weren't many alternatives for the FA positions we signed positions. The RB and Safety markets were weak, and the CB market was so ridiculously overpriced. I'm fine with the gambles we took in free agency.
 
I continually see praise heaped upon Hickey around here, with some going so far to say he is untouchable and should even be given the ability to hire his own coach. But has his performance really earned him that status?

First, let me say that I don't dislike Hickey and he has exceeded my expectations so far. He certainly has a better personality than Ireland and I believe that is a plus when it comes to the GM role. But with that being said, I feel that he has been a bit overhyped based on only 2 draft picks (James and Landry) and early returns on an FA class that is now all injured.

All of his FA pickups are injured, as was their MO before signing.

His reputation appears to have been built on two solid early round picks (Landry and James), the rest of the draft hasn't contributed much if at all. Billy Turner was a high pick and hasn't even dressed all year. We haven't heard diddly squat about the other picks since preseason.

Let's not forget that the much maligned Ireland actually had a solid track record in the first round outside of Dion Jordan. His weakness was the 2nd round, so at least Hickey has shown something there. But Ireland's drafts always found contributors in the late rounds (like Jones, Jenkins, etc) while none of Hickey's have shown that yet.

I will commend Hickey for repairing the the disastrous OL situation as best he could, and must say that his performance has exceeded my expectations so far, but I think some of you are getting a bit head of yourselves in your praise of Hickey as GM. He really hasn't proven anything yet...

If we dig up threads after Ireland's first year, everyone was praising his first draft a year after. A lot can change in a few years. A year after that, that same draft looked like a complete bust.

When I look at this year's squad, the main contributors to the team's performance are still Ireland's guys. The only Hickey guys to really contribute this year were Albert, James and Landry.

I love those guys, but should we really be handing the keys to the kingdom to a guy whose main claim to fame is picking 2 solid tackles and a great slot receiver?

EDIT: I understand Hickey is probably the least of our worries right now, just wanted to have an honest conversation about his performance so far and whether it truly warrants an untouchable status.

The man's not a god or anything ... but his decisions haven't exactly pissed me off either. I think he's done a pretty damn good job in year one, and IMO he's earned the privilege of selecting his own HC.
 
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I'm fine with his drafting so far. That's how winning teams are built, very good drafting with good FA's sprinkled in. I want to see what this guys got for the next draft. Ireland's poor drafting in the middle rounds, and piss poor FA evaluation, still rears it's ugly head right now. You needs time to expel the mistakes. The FA signings, beside Albert, were more of a stop gap to me. A lot of 1-2 year deals. Most of them didn't work out but it's better than Ireland's long term gaffe's with Wheeler, Ellerbe, and Inspector Gadget.
 
Not enough time top judge his performance. Draft picks take time to develop. Injuries happen. Just part of the game. If they decide to clean house and keep Hickey I'm ok with that.
 
Two picks in the first two rounds working out is a HUGE plus for this franchise. That's how championship teams are won. FA is just for stop gap players. I think James/Landry has earned Hickey another year.


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Albert,Cortland Finnegan,Louis Delmas, Knowshon Moreno,Satele, all were brought in by our GM and
all were productive,injuries did play a part but Hickey can't control injuries.

James and Landry are future studs who stepped in and played outstanding in their first season

I would love to have seen more/any time with Turner,Fede,Tripp,Hoskins,McCain,Aikens,and Williams
but then again Hickey doesnt cook the groceries.

I think we can look other places for a witch hunt than our GM who
in my opinion has done a fantastic job AFTER ONLY 1 SEASON piecing free agents and draft picks together
 
I continually see praise heaped upon Hickey around here, with some going so far to say he is untouchable and should even be given the ability to hire his own coach. But has his performance really earned him that status?

First, let me say that I don't dislike Hickey and he has exceeded my expectations so far. He certainly has a better personality than Ireland and I believe that is a plus when it comes to the GM role. But with that being said, I feel that he has been a bit overhyped based on only 2 draft picks (James and Landry) and early returns on an FA class that is now all injured.

All of his FA pickups are injured, as was their MO before signing.

His reputation appears to have been built on two solid early round picks (Landry and James), the rest of the draft hasn't contributed much if at all. Billy Turner was a high pick and hasn't even dressed all year. We haven't heard diddly squat about the other picks since preseason.

Let's not forget that the much maligned Ireland actually had a solid track record in the first round outside of Dion Jordan. His weakness was the 2nd round, so at least Hickey has shown something there. But Ireland's drafts always found contributors in the late rounds (like Jones, Jenkins, etc) while none of Hickey's have shown that yet.

I will commend Hickey for repairing the the disastrous OL situation as best he could, and must say that his performance has exceeded my expectations so far, but I think some of you are getting a bit head of yourselves in your praise of Hickey as GM. He really hasn't proven anything yet...

If we dig up threads after Ireland's first year, everyone was praising his first draft a year after. A lot can change in a few years. A year after that, that same draft looked like a complete bust.

When I look at this year's squad, the main contributors to the team's performance are still Ireland's guys. The only Hickey guys to really contribute this year were Albert, James and Landry.

I love those guys, but should we really be handing the keys to the kingdom to a guy whose main claim to fame is picking 2 solid tackles and a great slot receiver?

EDIT: I understand Hickey is probably the least of our worries right now, just wanted to have an honest conversation about his performance so far and whether it truly warrants an untouchable status.

He's had ONE offseason to work with. I think the only one with unrealistic expectations is you.
 
I continually see praise heaped upon Hickey around here, with some going so far to say he is untouchable and should even be given the ability to hire his own coach. But has his performance really earned him that status?

First, let me say that I don't dislike Hickey and he has exceeded my expectations so far. He certainly has a better personality than Ireland and I believe that is a plus when it comes to the GM role. But with that being said, I feel that he has been a bit overhyped based on only 2 draft picks (James and Landry) and early returns on an FA class that is now all injured.

All of his FA pickups are injured, as was their MO before signing.

His reputation appears to have been built on two solid early round picks (Landry and James), the rest of the draft hasn't contributed much if at all. Billy Turner was a high pick and hasn't even dressed all year. We haven't heard diddly squat about the other picks since preseason.

Let's not forget that the much maligned Ireland actually had a solid track record in the first round outside of Dion Jordan. His weakness was the 2nd round, so at least Hickey has shown something there. But Ireland's drafts always found contributors in the late rounds (like Jones, Jenkins, etc) while none of Hickey's have shown that yet.

I will commend Hickey for repairing the the disastrous OL situation as best he could, and must say that his performance has exceeded my expectations so far, but I think some of you are getting a bit head of yourselves in your praise of Hickey as GM. He really hasn't proven anything yet...

If we dig up threads after Ireland's first year, everyone was praising his first draft a year after. A lot can change in a few years. A year after that, that same draft looked like a complete bust.

When I look at this year's squad, the main contributors to the team's performance are still Ireland's guys. The only Hickey guys to really contribute this year were Albert, James and Landry.

I love those guys, but should we really be handing the keys to the kingdom to a guy whose main claim to fame is picking 2 solid tackles and a great slot receiver?

EDIT: I understand Hickey is probably the least of our worries right now, just wanted to have an honest conversation about his performance so far and whether it truly warrants an untouchable status.

Remember, Phailbin for whatever reason does not like to play rookies. I think there was so much of a margin between James and Landry vs the other players that they played them. But IMO there isnt much of a margin between the rest of the rookies and the garbage we have starting that Phailbin institutes his, do not play rookies mantra.
 
I like what Hickey has done... but then my vote of confidence is just a grain of sand in an ocean beach
 
It's too early to say whether he is good or not. We all though Ireland had nailed some of his first picks as well...we expected Jake Long to be our LT for 15 years, Kendall Langford was starting, Donald Thomas was a supposed 6th round gem starting at Guard initially...we were hopeful with Merling and Henne. Then a couple of years later we saw how much of a sham that whole draft was.

This year we see Ja'Wuan James playing extremely well, Jarvis Landry is doing well...we've seen some flashes from Walt Aikens and Terrence Fede and we're hopeful Billy Turner turns into something. We'll see what happens in a couple of years. Can't say whether Hickey is good or bad at this point. Free agents have been a mixed bag but overall they've been better, despite the injuries, than the majority of Ireland's free agent signings. Ellerbe, Wheeler, Gabril Wilson are some of the worst signings in the history of this franchise.
 
Hickey is our GM, he should have the power to hire and fire his HC because his job performance depends on it....hold him accountable and let him run the operations of this franchise, if Ross doesn't want him to run the franchise then he needs to fire him and Ross needs to put his name on the performance of this team and stop hiding behind scapegoats.....


Don't fair to judge a GM after his first yr, give him 3 yrs to get an accurate picture of his wins and losses in player acquisitions
 
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