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Is Reshad Jones set to bring practice prowess into games?

fishfanmiami said:
Reshad mentioned taking better angles and i think that was his real problem last year. Making big plays is great but if your out of position and then take poor angles you give up big plays. Not a good thing for our last line of defense. At least he is aware of this problem so there is hope he corrects it.
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That's been his main problem his whole football career, college to pros. Looks like he was never really coached up on certain aspects of his game. He relied on his athletic ability more than his football smarts.

IF he can put it together then we have ourselves a safety and I think if anybody can teach this guy, it's Coyle.
 
hooshoops said:
did omar really say polamalu with reshad jones??? wowzers...i like jones but he needs to communicate better and he needs to take better angles to the ball and not blow assignments...he's got ball skills and instincts though when it comes to the ball...a nose for it...and he's a hard hitting son of a gun...a lot like yeremiah bell but with much better ball skills...not dependable though yet...i bet he leads the team in ints though
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That's what we have Clemons for. He is a great communicator back there.

It was evident that the guy knew football when he started because he got everybody lined up correctly. Very solid.
 
I think Reshad Jones was terrible last year. There were several TD passes that were directly his fault for not being where he wa supposed to be. He bites on play action all the time, doesnt cover the guy he is assigned, and he thinks he is a LB. FS/SS is definitely our weakest position on defense imo.
 
I'm not falling for the camp (or preseason) stuff. I'll wait to see it on the field. It's not like we have a choice as the position was hardly addressed. Jones will get his shot one way or the other. We can only hope.
 
Zounds said:
That was actually Benny Sapp's fault, and he was cut after that game.
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If you're thinking of the 99 yard pass, I'd be hard pressed to blame Benny Sapp. If you watch that play, watch the set out of the snap. If memory serves me, they were running a Cover 1. Sapp was expecting a quick slant, likely because they were on the 1 and Welker is shifty. Sapp jammed him initially then ran with him, taking away that inside look. He took the inside route, expecting he had help deep, like most good corners do (not saying Sapp is by any means a good corner). What happened? Well...

Watch the play (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BnosvMaYRc)

That is just terrible. Why on EARTH Jones was trying to jump that pass from that distance is so far gone in my mind that there is no defending it. Jones, IMO, was entirely to blame on that play.
 
Crazy685 said:
If you're thinking of the 99 yard pass, I'd be hard pressed to blame Benny Sapp. If you watch that play, watch the set out of the snap. If memory serves me, they were running a Cover 1. Sapp was expecting a quick slant, likely because they were on the 1 and Welker is shifty. Sapp jammed him initially then ran with him, taking away that inside look. He took the inside route, expecting he had help deep, like most good corners do (not saying Sapp is by any means a good corner). What happened? Well...

Watch the play (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BnosvMaYRc)

That is just terrible. Why on EARTH Jones was trying to jump that pass from that distance is so far gone in my mind that there is no defending it. Jones, IMO, was entirely to blame on that play.
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How can you give all the blame to Jones on that play? I understand Jones took a bad angle but Sapp over played the inside and gave Welker a free release to the outside. When the defense has a single high safety the way the Dolphins did on that play, the last thing a cornerback can allow is giving a receiver a free release to the outside or away from safety help.

Earlier in the game Sapp allowed Welker a free release to the outside on Wes' first touchdown.
 
Crazy685 said:
If you're thinking of the 99 yard pass, I'd be hard pressed to blame Benny Sapp. If you watch that play, watch the set out of the snap. If memory serves me, they were running a Cover 1. Sapp was expecting a quick slant, likely because they were on the 1 and Welker is shifty. Sapp jammed him initially then ran with him, taking away that inside look. He took the inside route, expecting he had help deep, like most good corners do (not saying Sapp is by any means a good corner). What happened? Well...

Watch the play (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BnosvMaYRc)

That is just terrible. Why on EARTH Jones was trying to jump that pass from that distance is so far gone in my mind that there is no defending it. Jones, IMO, was entirely to blame on that play.
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Well when Sapp was susequently released follwing that game, Sparano cited that exact play in his presser. I think its safe to say that Sapp blew his assignment on man coverage (which he should have never had to do in the first place, but Mike Nolan's ineptness is besides the point).
 
Brady threw a pinpoint pass over the shoulder of Welker. Sapp completely took away the inside (even after the jam, which was a pretty weak attempt). When Sparano mentioned the 99 yarder in his presser, you're omitting that he blamed a lot of the blown coverages on zone coverages, but did say that there were a couple of times they were beat 1 on 1.

Jones absolutely blew that play. Again, I'm not saying Sapp is a good CB by any means, but on that exact play, the blame (with regards to it going for 99 yards) should still mostly be on Jones. They sent ONE man "deep", and that man was behind Jones. That's just sad.

Maybe that's where the difference in discussion is. Im not saying it's Jones fault the reception happened, Im saying the reason it went for 99 yards is because Jones blew his assignment
 
Crazy685 said:
Jones absolutely blew that play. Again, I'm not saying Sapp is a good CB by any means, but on that exact play, the blame (with regards to it going for 99 yards) should still mostly be on Jones. They sent ONE man "deep", and that man was behind Jones. That's just sad.
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The saftey is almost always the secondary responsibility. It didnt look like a trap play. Sapp wasn't underneath Welker by design. It was m2m, which you can clearly see when the players line up. Its on Sapp.
 
Zounds said:
The saftey is almost always the secondary responsibility. It didnt look like a trap play. Sapp wasn't underneath Welker by design. It was m2m, which you can clearly see when the players line up. Its on Sapp.
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its man to man but your single high safety needs to maintain depth...jones came up too flat

i agree with crazy jones if he maintains depth makes the tackle on that play and it doesn't go for 99 yards...there was some surprise there though cause welker usually runs some type of side cutting route or drags across the field and he went vertical from jump...that said in single high as the safety you must maintain depth
 
Crazy685 said:
Brady threw a pinpoint pass over the shoulder of Welker. Sapp completely took away the inside (even after the jam, which was a pretty weak attempt). When Sparano mentioned the 99 yarder in his presser, you're omitting that he blamed a lot of the blown coverages on zone coverages, but did say that there were a couple of times they were beat 1 on 1.
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This is where the problem began. Sapp was so worried about Welker getting to the inside of him that he played him with an inside out technique instead of head up or at the very least on Welker's outside. With Jones being a single safety in the middle of the field, it was Sapp responsibility to NOT let Welker get to the outside. Not only did Sapp let Welker get to the outside, he didn't even slow him down. Yes there is not disputing Jones poor angle allowed Welker to go the distance but if Sapp had did his part correctly, Jones would never had been in that position to begin with.

It shouldn't matter if they sent only one man or everyone deep, it was Sapp's responsibility to not let the slot receiver get an outside release.

Jones and Sapp are equally responsible for that play going 99 yards. Sapp for letting the receiver get a free release then falling down after the reception and Jones for taking a bad angle.
 
no no no...you don't want to give guys free inside releases...free inside releases are the shortest distance to your goalline...on that short yardage play i'm fine with playin the inside hip of welker you want him if he's gonna catch the ball to catch it on a outside flowing route so he's going sideways after the catch instead of vertical...that gives a solid tackler that lacks straight line speed like a sapp time to recover or enough time for your single high safety to come over provided he takes a good angle and make the tackle...

nothing irks me more than cbs that give guys free inside releases...sean smith is famous for them...

that said on that play the throws perfect welker beat sapp early in the route the balls out in front only thing if jones does maintain depth there he could have done is make the tackle after the catch...provided he takes a proper angle...the timing of the the throw from brady was spot on and the placement was also
 
you play outside technique there welker runs a little quick inside breaking route off your leverage and picks it up and gets down in front of your closing from distance single high safety...or worse he picks it up in full stride and then its one on one with your single high safety in full pursuit mode and welker with all the downhill momentum
 
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