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Is Suh tradable?

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I propose this question to posters who more privy to the salary cap situation than I am and what the ramifications would be if he is. Also, if he is tradable, what do you we can get in return from a contender? I highly doubt a first, but a 2nd or 3rd? With the team going nowhere and there being no light at the end of tunnel, there is no reason for him to be on the team and not traded to a contender -- unless it is detrimental to salary cap situation. This teams needs to accumulate all the trade picks it can get.
 
per overthecap his dead money if traded in:

2017 31m
2018 22m
2019 13m
2020 4m
 
If I'm reading it right, it'll be a 40 million dead cap hit with a negative 27.8m cap savings in 2016

2017, it's a 31.3 million in dead cap and a negative 12.2 cap savings in 2017.

So, he's here to stay till at least 2018, where we would "save" 3.9 million dollars. Quotation marks because he'll still have a hit of 22.2 million in 2018
 
Both Suh and Maxwell . . .

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He really isn't tradeable until 2019, but more realistically 2020, but by that time u can just cut him.

The issue with a trade is the bonus accelerates immediately . . The other team doesn't take on the bonus cap hits . . .we do, they just take on the salary space for each year.

This in a sense made the Maxwell trade understandable (before he showed us what a stiff he was up close). Philly is taking 4.8 million for Maxwell, 5.5 for Bradford this year and another 5.5 for Bradford next year. They don't care because they feel they have a franchise QB out of the deal and assets from the Bradford trade.

If we trade Suh this season, we immediately take on a 40 million dollar dead cap hit, which we can split between two seasons. Really not something any GM would ever do.
 
And thank goodness for the brilliant decision to move the lump sum of Suh's contract to next year in order to use the money for this season . . .

:loser:
 
Kdawg954 said:
If we trade Suh this season, we immediately take on a 40 million dollar dead cap hit, which we can split between two seasons. Really not something any GM would ever do.
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Cue the Breaking news where we trade Suh for a wide receiver.
 
Colostomy Bag said:
And thank goodness for the brilliant decision to move the lump sum of Suh's contract to next year in order to use the money for this season . . .

:loser:
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I mean Miami really didn't use all of the space and it can be rolled over so if approaching it like a "balance sheet" . . . There is a limited impact from the move. They utilized it to have a puncher's chance on Miller/Vernon/CJ Anderson and other FAs and struck out so it certainly looks worse. Truth is, Suh ain't going anywhere and that was always the case when we signed him. He is here through 2019 at minimum.
 
I'm kind of surprised SO many people are asking this question - my biggest annoyance with the FO this year wasn't the trade for Maxwell and Alonso (you can prob find 20 diff threads where I said he's a top 60 CB getting paid like a top 15 player which is ridiculous for us to take on)... biggest problem was extending/moving Suh's cap hit... He's the type of player that takes you from 9-7 to a possible superbowl run... you put him on a 4-12 team and you're still going to be a 4-12 team. He's not a quarterback. You don't pay him like one unless you really are solid everywhere else on the team.

It bugs the **** out of me that a casual fan like myself can have the foresight to see all these disastrous moves but there are people getting paid BIG MONEY who run this team into the ground. I'm not going to sit here and tell you I'm some brilliant football mind. I obviously understand the game, but it's not my job - how the **** can this be SO obvious to someone like me but not to people actually in charge - Ross and Tannebaum. I don't get that.
 
Colostomy Bag said:
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:lol:

I'm saying, when you lead the league in snaps on defense and face constant double team after double team, spotlighting a play where he doesn't go all out to chase a RB to the sidelines on a 90 degree day is kind of understandable. I've seen him down field and on the sidelines plenty. I'm sure he's as frustrated as anybody on this entire team. You'll find plays like this from every single defender in the NFL, most of which don't face the double teams or the heat/humidity in home games that he does.
 
Kdawg954 said:
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I'm saying, when you lead the league in snaps on defense and face constant double team after double team, spotlighting a play where he doesn't go all out to chase a RB to the sidelines on a 90 degree day is kind of understandable. I've seen him down field and on the sidelines plenty. I'm sure he's as frustrated as anybody on this entire team. You'll find plays like this from every single defender in the NFL, most of which don't face the double teams or the heat/humidity in home games that he does.
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Agree. Completely.

It was just one that stuck out in my mind yesterday as it was early in the 2nd qtr, so the whole tired excuse doesn't fly with me as much as it's more of an IGAF anymore mentality. Which is slightly understandable but not excusable for the amount he's being paid.
 
Suh is the least of our problems but he should be on a better than good team.
 
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