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Is there Significant Dysfunction Within the Team?

Does the Martin/Incognito situation indicate a team culture problem?


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Putting the Jonathan Martin/Richie Incognito thing aside for a minute, it occurred to me that it's possible there is significant dysfunction going on within the locker room of the Miami Dolphins.

It's just my personal opinion, but I believe teams that compete at a high level, especially those that do so for extended periods of time (i.e., dynasties) have a very strong team culture that's established and maintained by leaders among the players, and is an offshoot or dissemination if you will of the head coach's philosophy or program.

The leaders among the players "buy in" to the head coach's philosophy or program, exhibit it through their own behavior (i.e., leading by example), and disseminate it to their teammates through vocal persuasion (i.e., vocal leadership).

This is what we see when Tom Brady and Tedy Bruschi tell their teammates to "just do your job," which is something Bill Belichick preaches. It's what we saw when Michael Irvin and Emmitt Smith led with brash, outspoken personality styles very similar to their head coach, Jimmy Johnson. It's what we saw when the more cerebral Joe Montana led the 49ers in the way the very cerebral Bill Walsh coached them.

This is the stuff of champions in my opinion. It's a team program head to toe -- a culture -- established by a head coach, and fueled and maintained by leaders among the players.

Watch this example in living color, as Joey Porter and Jerome Bettis convey the tough, hard-nosed style of Bill Cowher on the way to that team's Super Bowl championship years ago:

[video=youtube;gpOG9K02F_g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpOG9K02F_g[/video]


Now, what we have with the 2013 Miami Dolphins is a head coach who preaches professionalism. He believes that a poised, professional, attention-to-detail approach is what wins in the NFL. This is his personality, and his style.

To win big, this team is going to need leaders among the players who buy in to that approach, exemplify it in their own behavior, and vocally persuade their teammates to follow suit.

So I'll ask the forum: in what state are the 2013 Miami Dolphins under Joe Philbin when the current Martin/Incognito situation -- and the unprofessionalism it can suggest -- can dominate the team's landscape amidst such a diametrically opposed head coaching style and philosophy?
 
Dysfunction ....In Miami?

And...you needed to make a Poll about this?

No way man....things are GRrrrreeeeet.

And yes...Im not even considering the Incognito/ Martin debacle.
 
Cowher was in Pitt over a decade. Not a fair comparison there.


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I saw professionalism and level headed thinking in Wakes, tannehills, grimes, and even Hartlines interviews the other day. It's hard to judge this team because two guys are having a spat.


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Ray Lewis said it best this morning on mike and mike, he said Miami has leaders but no leadership....

Of Course they have a locker room problem but I'm pretty sure Ross is about to fix it.....
 
By your logic, there are 31 other dysfunctional locker rooms every year??? Whoever happens to win the super bowl that year is the only well oiled machine?? Lets say Miami goes on a run this year, makes the playoffs, and happens to win the super bowl this year- then this question doesn't exist. I honestly happen to think talent and coaching are the keys to Super Bowls. Locker room leadership is important ofcourse, but it is secondary in my opinion.
 
Voted "maybe" cuz we really don't know and cannot trust the venal rapacious, frothing-at-the-mouth uncredible mass media. However if we do, I'm reasonably certain we're middle of the pack dysfunctional - the only difference being the glare of the spotlilght.
 
No more a mess than any other NFL locker room IMO. Well the other locker rooms don't have someone that is so willing to break the code, like Martin is.
 
honestly happen to think talent and coaching are the keys to Super Bowls. Locker room leadership is important ofcourse, but it is secondary in my opinion.
I believe that talent is necessary but not sufficient for high-level competitiveness.

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Ray Lewis said it best this morning on mike and mike, he said Miami has leaders but no leadership....
And that may be because what the leaders are doing doesn't jibe with what the head coach is preaching.
 
Dysfunction ....In Miami?

And...you needed to make a Poll about this?

No way man....things are GRrrrreeeeet.

And yes...Im not even considering the Incognito/ Martin debacle.
Actually I felt like just prior to this the Bengals game signified some pretty good leadership. But I think you have to wonder how the season can be punctuated by something very unprofessional looking while a head coach is trying to implement a culture centering on professionalism.

There may be leadership in some ways, but it may not be an extension of the head coach's philosophy as I pointed out in the OP, which I think is a problem if so.
 
No I don't think so ... I think this teams defense of each other and of Ritchie has served to galvanize and focus them.
 
No I don't think so ... I think this teams defense of each other and of Ritchie has served to galvanize and focus them.
And I agree, but is there any more semblance of the professionalism Philbin is trying to implement as a culture? There may be more unification right now (at least temporarily), but is there any more of the establishment and dissemination of the head coach's program via leaders among the players?
 
And I agree, but is there any more semblance of the professionalism Philbin is trying to implement as a culture? There may be more unification right now (at least temporarily), but is there any more of the establishment and dissemination of the head coach's program via leaders among the players?

I would think this staff, under this amount of scrutiny, is probably really providing serious leadership right now. Just an assumption.
 
Absolutely....There is not 1 single leader within the Miami Dolphins from top to bottom.
thank the FO for that - cleared 'me all out. What were they thinking? Same thing they were thinking when they dumped Marshall but didn't know who would play WR. MORONS
 
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