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Is Wanny really the problem?

If you believe Wanny is taking the FINS down because of the record then D. Vermeil, Gruden, Butch Davis, M. Schottenheimer, M. Martz, should all be fired.

Remember Holmgren looked pretty bad a couple of years ago and now he is a genius again.

Gruden was a genius and now he is a terrible Coach.

Jax though Coughlin was terrible but the Giants thought he was better than a Coach that took them to the SB in 2000.

We forced the greatest Coach ever out so that we could get the master mind, the chosen one, the best when it came to building a team, thats right JJ himself. Wow that Coaching change was fruitful.

Saban, Weis, Jesus, it doesn't matter unless players execute.
 
Dolfan4life said:
Ill say it again. If you believe Wanny chose AJ you are crazy. Someone from the top has made it clear that they want AJ throwing Interceptions and Fumbling. So, Wanny is forced to keep him in there or be fired. Either way he is going to be fired, but I wish he would go down doing what everyone knows is right. PLAY JAY

you may just have answered your own question, my freind, ...If a coach is making decisions based on intimidation, shouldnt he be downright fired just based on that fact????
 
Dolfan4life said:
Ill say it again. If you believe Wanny chose AJ you are crazy. Someone from the top has made it clear that they want AJ throwing Interceptions and Fumbling. So, Wanny is forced to keep him in there or be fired. Either way he is going to be fired, but I wish he would go down doing what everyone knows is right. PLAY JAY
i hope you are not insinuating that if left up to wanny, we would have gottena better qb...
 
Dolfan4life said:
If you believe Wanny is taking the FINS down because of the record then D. Vermeil, Gruden, Butch Davis, M. Schottenheimer, M. Martz, should all be fired.

Remember Holmgren looked pretty bad a couple of years ago and now he is a genius again.

Gruden was a genius and now he is a terrible Coach.

Jax though Coughlin was terrible but the Giants thought he was better than a Coach that took them to the SB in 2000.

We forced the greatest Coach ever out so that we could get the master mind, the chosen one, the best when it came to building a team, thats right JJ himself. Wow that Coaching change was fruitful.

Saban, Weis, Jesus, it doesn't matter unless players execute.

LOL ! So what do you think the coach's job is anyway? Its to get the players to execute! Wannstedt is a bum. He destroyed Chicago, and now he has destroyed the Dolphins.
 
Fin Fan in Cali said:
When can you remember that the Dolphins came out of the half ready to kick butt and make adjustmenst in there play calling? You would probably have to go back to JJ for and regularity of it at all!
I seriously cannot remember that happening in a long time, god knows I have screamed for it but god it hasn't happened lately
 
No. If a Coach is being told what to do from an owner that knows as much about football as he does about Rogaine then it is not his fault.

Just like anyone with a normal job has a boss, so does Wanny. If your boss told you to do something or walk out the door and never come back you to would probably bend over a kiss his
 
Dolfan4life said:
No. If a Coach is being told what to do from an owner that knows as much about football as he does about Rogaine then it is not his fault.
Just like anyone with a normal job has a boss, so does Wanny. If your boss told you to do something or walk out the door and never come back you to would probably bend over a kiss his

It is still his fault. If I'm a prison guard and get told by the warden to beat unpopular inmate #357, I still have a choice to make. If Dave is getting these conspiracy messages from the NOTORIOUSLY HANDS OFF WH, then he needs to make a judgment call. Once he does that, he has made his bed and it is ENTIRELY appropriate for us to be critical of his choice.

Another big difference between most of us and Wanny is that Wanny has a contract. If he gets fired, he'll be paid through the end of the contract unless he signed something with a Ricky Williams-level stupid contract term in it...
 
Wanny may have gotten a better QB, or he may not have.

As for making the players execute. He isnt a miracle worker. He tells them to hold onto the ball, and they drop it. Focus and dont make stupid penalties, they jump offsides. AJ dont force anything, INT After INT.

What do you want him to do. Tell them that more points than the other team is better. Something tells me they have figured that out. Wanny and the Coaches cant help they have caught the injury bug. And the players on O that are healthy are not producing.
 
If you believe Wanny is taking the FINS down because of the record then D. Vermeil, Gruden, Butch Davis, M. Schottenheimer, M. Martz, should all be fired.
I Believe he should be fired becuz of other several reasons as well, not just this years record..

Remember Holmgren looked pretty bad a couple of years ago and now he is a genius again.
Holmegrem is bringing a bad team up, where as in Dave is bringing a good team down..

Gruden was a genius and now he is a terrible Coach.
Gruden won a SuperBowl in his first year as a coach for a new team..where as Wanny has only seen playoffs and that was in his first of four years as HC.

Jax though Coughlin was terrible but the Giants thought he was better than a Coach that took them to the SB in 2000.
He's won 2 games...I dont see your point.

We forced the greatest Coach ever out so that we could get the master mind, the chosen one, the best when it came to building a team, thats right JJ himself. Wow that Coaching change was fruitful.
If it werent for JJ, we wouldnt be sticking around these games like we are right now.

Saban, Weis, Jesus, it doesn't matter unless players execute.
Players tend to execute a lil more if they like their coach...Look at Cincy & Chicago...sometimes a change is for the better.
 
Did you ever think that Dave enjoys his job and doesn't want to be fired. Yeah he could play Fiedler and go down on his own terms, but dont fault the guy for wanting to keep his job. That is human nature.
 
Dolfan4life said:
As for making the players execute. He isnt a miracle worker. He tells them to hold onto the ball, and they drop it. Focus and dont make stupid penalties, they jump offsides. AJ dont force anything, INT After INT.
What do you want him to do. Tell them that more points than the other team is better. Something tells me they have figured that out.

Then why should Dave be coaching?? I mean I can tell the players the same thing...heck anyone can tell that to the players...I can tell you to catch a ball and hold on to it...but if I dont show you the proper way how to do it, then you will not learn period!
 
Is Wanny the problem?

Where have you been!?!?

He should have been fired after the 2002 season...defending Wanny is not an option I.M.O....

Fire him out the door...

Don't cry for Wanny...he has made a lot of money...he'll be fine...
 
Dolfan4life said:
Not his fault Ricky is loser.

Not his fault AJ sucks and Rick chose him.

Not his fault we didn't address the Oline in the offseason.

Not his fault Boston got hurt.

Not his fault L. Chester got hurt.

Not his fault T. Bowens is hurt.

Not his fault R. Konrad is hurt.

Not his fault T. Minor is hurt.

Not his fault when people like D. Lee and Feeley continue to turn the ball over.

Not his fault the new Off. Coordinator had a nervous breakdown.

Not his fault the Special Teams have suffered injuries.

Not his fault the Weather has been both bad for practice and games.

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I heard some members of the FO were surfing finheaven but I didnt think you would be on this site Dave.
 
Dolfan4life said:
If you believe Wanny is taking the FINS down because of the record then D. Vermeil, Gruden, Butch Davis, M. Schottenheimer, M. Martz, should all be fired.


I do believe Butch, Schottenheimer and M. Martz should be fired. They are all terrible coaches.
 
everything you need to know about wannstedt from sundays miami herald


"Likewise, Wannstedt uses gadgets, such as mouse traps and lobster traps, to warn his players of complacency when they are winning.

The downside is that Wannstedt's message has often been ignored as so much Pollyanna. Players have privately rolled their eyes at Wannstedt's power of positive thinking.

Such as the time last year when Wannstedt spoke to the team and used a basket and four props, a family photo, a Bible, a football and a brick with the word ''distractions'' on it.

Wannstedt's point was that if you concentrate on family, faith and football, everything would fit neatly in the basket. Add the ''distractions'' and it doesn't fit.

Nice message, but when Wannstedt fumbled with the props and couldn't get everything back in the basket, it was a comedic flop.

When Wannstedt put the basket and the props in the locker room, one prominent player threw them away in disgust."
 
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