isnt nolan suppose to be some definsive genius?

[Nappy Roots]

I think the biggest difference in the defense is Cam Wake. The dude beat his guy almost every play last season. This season he rarely gets by his man. He is much slower off the ball this season than last and I wonder if he was coached to slow down his rush. I am thinking he may have been coached to slow down and stay under control so he could play against the run. If that is true then the coaches made a huge mistake. I would much rather have him get beat on a few traps and things then never get any pressure on the QB. This guy went from probably the best pass rusher I have ever seen to an afterthought. That doesn't happen unless he is playing injured or has been told to change his game.

Considering they have him rushing from the strong side this could be some of the case. Though he was mostly a SOLB last season, he came in expected to be on the weak side and his game was that. He is much much better against the run this season, but hes not rushing the passer with any leverage. Moving him to strong was a mistake IMO. I still dont get it.

 

[Swantoon]

Considering they have him rushing from the strong side this could be some of the case. Though he was mostly a SOLB last season, he came in expected to be on the weak side and his game was that. He is much much better against the run this season, but hes not rushing the passer with any leverage. Moving him to strong was a mistake IMO. I still dont get it.

I don't know why they don't let Koa play the strong side. He seems decent against the run and he damn sure isn't getting any pass rush from the weak side.

 

[Nappy Roots]

I don't know why they don't let Koa play the strong side. He seems decent against the run and he damn sure isn't getting any pass rush from the weak side.

which is why JT has seen the field more then Koa, which is ridiculous. You need pass rush from the weak side. Koa is not a good pass rusher, but he is good in coverage and against the run, which is one reason it baffles me on the move. After this season I am hoping we are able to get a good SOLB that can provide some sort of pass rush and just move Koa inside where ive thought he should have been since he was drafted. Hes not going to be able to stick at OLB in a 3-4 based defense.

 

[dolfan91]

The 1st quarter of the Jet game was what I had expected from the defense this year, for the most part they played hard and actually maintained their assignments ... that was the 1st time all season, I saw what this defense was capable of ... then, they stopped blitzing and started blowing assignments and all of a sudden Sanchez looked like Manning ... something is not right? they had the Jets down and didn't keep the pressure up ... it was like a totally different approach the last 3 quarters of that game .. I agree Nolan has to go too!!!

 

[Twitches Brew]

It starts and ends with the pass rush. Our pass rush last year was one guy...sort of.

We don't have a 3-4 DL who makes a difference and demands extra attention, which is the problem; every 34 defense needs a lineman who can open up space for the LBs. Baltimore has Ngata, GB has Raji (Cullen Jenkins, before), Dallas has Jay Ratliff, and Pitt used to have a solid Jason Smith and dominant Casey Hampton--his decline is actually what's causing that D to lose its effectiveness. The Jets D is not the same without Sean Ellis (and Kris Jenkins to an extent); the Redskins attempt at a 34 failed last year because Haynesworth couldn't handle the attention paid to the middle, but they now found Adam Karriker to play end and is doing the job; Houston's new 3-4 works because of J.J. Watt.

What do all these teams also have? An effective edge rusher. But Suggs, Harrison, Orakpo, Williams and Matthews (who is way overrated) are not all that great. None of OLB sack guys would be the same without that ONE guy on the front 3 who can seriously play. The exception is probably DeMarcus Ware who's just undeniably dominant no matter what.

It starts up front. Soliai was great last season, hence Wake's sack numbers. Soliai has seemingly disappeared, i don't know why. We don't have the guys up front to play a 3-4. I honestly think we should convert to a 4-3 next season.

 

[phinasota]

When Dolphins Offensive coordinator Gary Stevens was heavily criticized along time ago, and eventually fired, he said " You can't make chicken salad out of chicken $hit". Meaning you can only do what you can do with the talent you have. I am sorry but we do not have any great talent on this team. The blame does not fall on Nolan. It falls on the crappy talent and the crappy effort and play by the talent we have. Ireland is the failure to me.

I actually agree. I think we should keep Nolan. Overall he is a good coach and with a better surrounding cast of new coaches next year i think we would see a big difference. i also think we should convert back to the 4-3 system. its not so dependant on one big *** strong NT, solia is just not good enough to be that one guy. many more reasons but this one sticks out to me. one less position to fill too because everybody knows we have all kinds of holes to fill. haha i love filling holes!

also, the the strength and conditioning coaches come into play here. who the hell are these guys anyway? did we get a new staff there from last year? I havent even paid attention to that part of our team. they are horrible whoever they are.

 

[Phinatic8u]

Completely wrong!
Our D is pretty much the same personnel as last year, a year that they were an elite D. How are they now crappy talent now?

We have a ton of talent.....except for the talent that is in charge.

Your completly wrong.

Go back and look at last years games and look at the offenses we faced. When we played the Bills.with Fitzpatrick, The Pats, and every other elite offensr we played like ****. Its easy to play well against ****ty offenses.

 

[Phinatic8u]

It starts and ends with the pass rush. Our pass rush last year was one guy...sort of.

We don't have a 3-4 DL who makes a difference and demands extra attention, which is the problem; every 34 defense needs a lineman who can open up space for the LBs. Baltimore has Ngata, GB has Raji (Cullen Jenkins, before), Dallas has Jay Ratliff, and Pitt used to have a solid Jason Smith and dominant Casey Hampton--his decline is actually what's causing that D to lose its effectiveness. The Jets D is not the same without Sean Ellis (and Kris Jenkins to an extent); the Redskins attempt at a 34 failed last year because Haynesworth couldn't handle the attention paid to the middle, but they now found Adam Karriker to play end and is doing the job; Houston's new 3-4 works because of J.J. Watt.

What do all these teams also have? An effective edge rusher. But Suggs, Harrison, Orakpo, Williams and Matthews (who is way overrated) are not all that great. None of OLB sack guys would be the same without that ONE guy on the front 3 who can seriously play. The exception is probably DeMarcus Ware who's just undeniably dominant no matter what.

It starts up front. Soliai was great last season, hence Wake's sack numbers. Soliai has seemingly disappeared, i don't know why. We don't have the guys up front to play a 3-4. I honestly think we should convert to a 4-3 next season.

Solai isnt on alot of plays. Week 4 I think he only had about 65 snaps played in previous weeks combined.

 

[Phinatic8u]

Soooo, why were they good last season?

We played a bunch of ****ty offenses.

 

[Sarnics13]

Your completly wrong.

Go back and look at last years games and look at the offenses we faced. When we played the Bills.with Fitzpatrick, The Pats, and every other elite offensr we played like ****. Its easy to play well against ****ty offenses.

Not exactly sure what you are talking about. I said that the people on our D are pretty much the same people as last year.....so how is that wrong?
Why do some people just want to argue a point so bad they argue a point that wasn't even being talked about.....

 

[Dr. Phin]

Soooo, why were they good last season?

We weren't. It was a mirage. We were good only in total yards...in scoring we were average. We had fewer total yards because we played ball control offense and the number of possessions for both teams were lower compared to other teams...so, it was an "artificial" stat. Now that we have "opened it up" a bit, we are also coming of the field faster and there are more possessions per game...hence more yards.

 

[ChambersWI]

we have talent on defense, but we are not a defense built to make plays if that makes sense. Yeah our secondary dropped a lot of picks last year, but look at how our CBs play; they aren't playing for picks with how far they drop back in zone coverage. Nolan's Ds since leaving Baltimore have also been too reliant on one player instead of an entire group.

 

[Valandui]

Solai isnt on alot of plays. Week 4 I think he only had about 65 snaps played in previous weeks combined.

I also think that teams just game plan him out as well. If they can eliminate him and Wake as a concern then our defense is essentially crippled.

 

[Tunaphish429]

Nolan cant help that no one is making an effort to get to the qb.

 

[fin-atic]

I find it laughable that everyone is slamming me because "it was the same players as last year!" well guess what? It was the same defensive coordinator and the same scheme as last year too!!! So that dog doesn't hunt...it goes both ways.

I am sorry I think that Odrick is a bust, I think the players like Davis and Smith, and Wake and Dansby have back slid. If you have the same scheme, and the same players and the defense doesn't execute as well...it's the players not the coach. They have given up, and they are not playing hard or focusing.

You guys make the mistake to think we have "all this talent on defense"...well fact is we don't. They are mediocre at best and that is just getting revealed. They had a decent year last year, but you know what it really fell off at the end and was really apparent in the beat down NE laid on us at the end of the year. Poor talent. Sorry.