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Italy takes note of U.S. 'war' quotes

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If the United States considers its next game "war," Italy is ready.
Even if the Azzurri believe statements made by U.S. forward Eddie Johnson were a little over the top.

"We'll do our talking on the field. That's what we're here to do," forward Vincenzo Iaquinta said Thursday. "But if they consider it war, then it will be war for us, too."

The American team was to spend Thursday and Friday nights at Ramstein Air Base outside Kaiserslautern, where the United States plays Italy on Saturday.

Johnson said Wednesday that he hoped some of the troops' spirit would transfer over to the U.S. team.

"It's like us in the World Cup. We're here for a war," the 22-year-old forward said. "We came here to battle, we came here to represent our country."
The Americans are coming off a 3-0 loss to the Czech Republic and need a win to avoid elimination. Italy opened with a comfortable 2-0 win over Ghana in Group E.

"A war seems a bit exaggerated but we'll prepare ourselves appropriately," striker Alberto Gilardino said. "We're not underestimating any of our opponents. This is the game of their lives. We have to go out and play our game to bring home three points."

Gilardino added that he thought "Johnson was only referring to the competitive aspect of war."

Johnson was asked whether he was comparing a sporting event to a war.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/soccer/specials/world_cup/2006/06/15/usitaly.warcomments/index.html
 
BAMAPHIN 22 said:
If the United States considers its next game "war," Italy is ready.
Even if the Azzurri believe statements made by U.S. forward Eddie Johnson were a little over the top.

"We'll do our talking on the field. That's what we're here to do," forward Vincenzo Iaquinta said Thursday. "But if they consider it war, then it will be war for us, too."

The American team was to spend Thursday and Friday nights at Ramstein Air Base outside Kaiserslautern, where the United States plays Italy on Saturday.

Johnson said Wednesday that he hoped some of the troops' spirit would transfer over to the U.S. team.

"It's like us in the World Cup. We're here for a war," the 22-year-old forward said. "We came here to battle, we came here to represent our country."
The Americans are coming off a 3-0 loss to the Czech Republic and need a win to avoid elimination. Italy opened with a comfortable 2-0 win over Ghana in Group E.

"A war seems a bit exaggerated but we'll prepare ourselves appropriately," striker Alberto Gilardino said. "We're not underestimating any of our opponents. This is the game of their lives. We have to go out and play our game to bring home three points."

Gilardino added that he thought "Johnson was only referring to the competitive aspect of war."

Johnson was asked whether he was comparing a sporting event to a war.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/soccer/specials/world_cup/2006/06/15/usitaly.warcomments/index.html

:rolleyes2

Personally I get very tired of hearing stupid stuff like this.
Analogies are comparisons of certain aspects of one thing compared to another. They aren't direct comparisons of everything between one thing and another. Someone always has to make an issue where there isn't one.

The media latched onto this and you can tell they take great pleasure in blowing it out of proportion just like everything else they like to play up.
 
Johnson is young and what he said was blown way out of proportion...
 
Italy only goes to war with countries like Ethiopia. :D
 
Trekbiz said:
:rolleyes2

Analogies are comparisons of certain aspects of one thing compared to another. They aren't direct comparisons of everything between one thing and another. Someone always has to make an issue where there isn't one.

are you suggesting that my dream of a life-sized map of the world is impossible? j/k.

like you, i find it annoying when people expect analogies to be perfect. there is no such thing as a perfect analogy, because language itself is just a symbolic representation of something else. often people who confuse the map for the territory are just being intentionally dense.

anyway, i fear the u.s. will be crushed, though i'm wishing otherwise.
 
I take the phrase "going to war" in a sporting event to mean something totally different than what some players think it means.

When you say that you are going to war in a sporting event...I expect to see people carted off the field.

If Johnson is talking about hard challenges to every ball and the well placed elbow to the nose....then yeah...

But don't say you are going to war when you meant that you are gonna play hard.
 
Roman529 said:
Italy only goes to war with countries like Ethiopia. :D

the list of countries the u.s. has invaded since WWII isn't much more impressive, IMO. not sayin' we need to throw a big war. just sayin'.
 
Section126 said:
I take the phrase "going to war" in a sporting event to mean something totally different than what some players think it means.

When you say that you are going to war in a sporting event...I expect to see people carted off the field.

If Johnson is talking about hard challenges to every ball and the well placed elbow to the nose....then yeah...

But don't say you are going to war when you meant that you are gonna play hard.

true, the analogy does seem to add another level of expected intensity that players don't often bring when they use it.
 
DPlus47 said:
the list of countries the u.s. has invaded since WWII isn't much more impressive, IMO. not sayin' we need to throw a big war. just sayin'.

Well, they're more impressive than Ethiopia. Iraq in 1990 did have the world's 4th largest army. The rout that followed wasn't really expected by most people.

Anyway, no need to be proud of going to war, but the outcome of Desert Storm was (with the Mexican-American War) one of the most successful we've fought.
 
ckb2001 said:
Well, they're more impressive than Ethiopia. Iraq in 1990 did have the world's 4th largest army. The rout that followed wasn't really expected by most people.

Anyway, no need to be proud of going to war, but the outcome of Desert Storm was (with the Mexican-American War) one of the most successful we've fought.

the difference between the worlds largest army and fourth largest is like the difference between the miami dolphins and the mount union purple raiders, though. i do hear, you, though: ethiopia is like ohio wesleyan or something.
 
What Johnson said was stupid and ill informed. Arena seems to be losing control of the team.
 
Boomer said:
What Johnson said was stupid and ill informed. Arena seems to be losing control of the team.

Oh please. :rolleyes2

Arena took care of the matter in the Press Conference afterwards...
 
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