dabeastdabone
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I just had to start this thread. I'm sorry but the negotiations talks right now mean absolutely nothing and I'm near ashamed the way my fellow finheaven forum comrades are proclaiming any bit of information tied to their chosen draftee in waiting as that golden bit of knowledge that should convince the rest of us it is their guy who will get the honors of being the next Dolphin.
(5) Jake Long-two weeks till draft and we begin the final deal? Right, your kidding me. Jake Long should have a sign across his forehead saying "BAIT!". Why on earth would the Dolphins start negations now unless they were more interested in the tools created by negotiations. Those being to set a price to have undercut by the other players and have time to draw any trade talks. To me Long drops way down the list of possible 1st round guys.
(4) Gholston-same as J. Long. I'm not sold on the Dolphins feeling that LB/DE is their #1 need. I doubt anyone seriously thinks we would take him anyway.
(3) Chris Long-About every other Draft chart has C. Long being the pick but still he is at a position that isn't a big need. being a late bloomer (Sr season) and getting all the Howie Longs son "ink" I doubt will be something slips by Parcells like it has so many here. The predraft experts are selling Chris far more than Parcells sweet talking him can. I'm not a big believer in the "smokescreen" theory but the media is creating this one for the Dolphins.
About 5,4, and 3- these aren't impact players. These aren't impact positions. They may help the team but they are limited. We have half new ownership. We have entirely new front office. We have a fan base worn out with mediocrity..or worse. I'm not talking about the fans in here. I'm talking about that 80% fanbase that cares mainly about sports center highlights and buying the jersey of a playmakers. These factors will be involved far more than the people on these boards admit. It was less than 12 months ago when the Dolphins draft was booed by about 95% of the Dolphin Nation. That draft was the first and biggest step towards getting everyone associated with it fired. If Cam drafted Quinn, cam would still be Head Coach...even if Quinn failed miserably. The fans wanted Quinn.
(2) McFadden-I think everyone has written off McFadden to early. McFadden by most sources is the best player in the draft. He is a guy who was runner up for the Heisman 2 years which I don't think can be discounted because he played in the SEC. Heisman RB's are a "a risk" at being a bust in the NFL? No they aren't...not SEC and teams of the Big 12. If Chris Long has the most earmarks to figure he will be a bust McFadden is the opposite, played on a poor team in the toughest conference during his time in the SEC and still achieved more than any other. Mcfadden gear will sell like hotcakes, he is money, money, and more money to the franchise. And there will be plenty of balls to go around between him Ronnie, and Ricky during the time chewing drives such an offense will produce. And no it's not to much money. the position has Ronnie Brown (17th in RB's in cost against the cap...and Ricky who gets league minumum. The Dolphins currently spend a pittance in their backfield. We currently have McFaddens former OC on staff so it surprises me little we do not hear about interviews and meetings.
(1) Ryan- Despite what people think Parcells has a record with young QB's and has used two first round picks to draft the (Bledsoe, Pennington). Don't argue hat he had nothing to do with either pick because his signature is on the paperwork and you have no evidence otherwise. Also Bill was on the Coaching staff when the Giants drafted and started a Rookie, Phil Sims, who got rookie of the year runner up. Bledsoe also started as a rookie and did very well. In short Bill has experience around Rookie QB's and he has seen great success with them so it can't be said he won't play a young QB, which by the way only came out because Drew Henson who is where now? Maybe he just didn't chose to play that young QB. Much of the same can be said for Ryan as McFadden, Ryan will sell gear. Ryan will charge the fanbase, Ryan will help forget last years draft debacle. Ryan is rated very good to great from most the experts. He will buy the Coaching staff two years easily to build something which Cam didn't take into account. We currently have two QB's so we will be bringing in another. The Dolphins need a very good QB and not a adequate QB.
History has shown us:
Quinn was talked to first, J Russel last and drafted.
Rodgers talked to first, Smith last and drafted.
Bush was talked to first, Williams last and drafted.
My preditions for the #1 Pick
(most likely)-Ryan
(Next to most Likely)-McFadden
(Only if they get'em real cheap) Long, Long, Gholston
I'm not selling out Beck, truly. But if BP has any doubts I firmly believe he has more reasons to draft Ryan than not.
(5) Jake Long-two weeks till draft and we begin the final deal? Right, your kidding me. Jake Long should have a sign across his forehead saying "BAIT!". Why on earth would the Dolphins start negations now unless they were more interested in the tools created by negotiations. Those being to set a price to have undercut by the other players and have time to draw any trade talks. To me Long drops way down the list of possible 1st round guys.
(4) Gholston-same as J. Long. I'm not sold on the Dolphins feeling that LB/DE is their #1 need. I doubt anyone seriously thinks we would take him anyway.
(3) Chris Long-About every other Draft chart has C. Long being the pick but still he is at a position that isn't a big need. being a late bloomer (Sr season) and getting all the Howie Longs son "ink" I doubt will be something slips by Parcells like it has so many here. The predraft experts are selling Chris far more than Parcells sweet talking him can. I'm not a big believer in the "smokescreen" theory but the media is creating this one for the Dolphins.
About 5,4, and 3- these aren't impact players. These aren't impact positions. They may help the team but they are limited. We have half new ownership. We have entirely new front office. We have a fan base worn out with mediocrity..or worse. I'm not talking about the fans in here. I'm talking about that 80% fanbase that cares mainly about sports center highlights and buying the jersey of a playmakers. These factors will be involved far more than the people on these boards admit. It was less than 12 months ago when the Dolphins draft was booed by about 95% of the Dolphin Nation. That draft was the first and biggest step towards getting everyone associated with it fired. If Cam drafted Quinn, cam would still be Head Coach...even if Quinn failed miserably. The fans wanted Quinn.
(2) McFadden-I think everyone has written off McFadden to early. McFadden by most sources is the best player in the draft. He is a guy who was runner up for the Heisman 2 years which I don't think can be discounted because he played in the SEC. Heisman RB's are a "a risk" at being a bust in the NFL? No they aren't...not SEC and teams of the Big 12. If Chris Long has the most earmarks to figure he will be a bust McFadden is the opposite, played on a poor team in the toughest conference during his time in the SEC and still achieved more than any other. Mcfadden gear will sell like hotcakes, he is money, money, and more money to the franchise. And there will be plenty of balls to go around between him Ronnie, and Ricky during the time chewing drives such an offense will produce. And no it's not to much money. the position has Ronnie Brown (17th in RB's in cost against the cap...and Ricky who gets league minumum. The Dolphins currently spend a pittance in their backfield. We currently have McFaddens former OC on staff so it surprises me little we do not hear about interviews and meetings.
(1) Ryan- Despite what people think Parcells has a record with young QB's and has used two first round picks to draft the (Bledsoe, Pennington). Don't argue hat he had nothing to do with either pick because his signature is on the paperwork and you have no evidence otherwise. Also Bill was on the Coaching staff when the Giants drafted and started a Rookie, Phil Sims, who got rookie of the year runner up. Bledsoe also started as a rookie and did very well. In short Bill has experience around Rookie QB's and he has seen great success with them so it can't be said he won't play a young QB, which by the way only came out because Drew Henson who is where now? Maybe he just didn't chose to play that young QB. Much of the same can be said for Ryan as McFadden, Ryan will sell gear. Ryan will charge the fanbase, Ryan will help forget last years draft debacle. Ryan is rated very good to great from most the experts. He will buy the Coaching staff two years easily to build something which Cam didn't take into account. We currently have two QB's so we will be bringing in another. The Dolphins need a very good QB and not a adequate QB.
History has shown us:
Quinn was talked to first, J Russel last and drafted.
Rodgers talked to first, Smith last and drafted.
Bush was talked to first, Williams last and drafted.
My preditions for the #1 Pick
(most likely)-Ryan
(Next to most Likely)-McFadden
(Only if they get'em real cheap) Long, Long, Gholston
I'm not selling out Beck, truly. But if BP has any doubts I firmly believe he has more reasons to draft Ryan than not.
