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Its funny to hear you guys say that Saban will turn into some "Belichick" coach.

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I mean I do know that we have a great coach but some decisions that he probably regrets will haunt him until he puts more wins on the board. However with the way things are going this season and his decisions, we won't see no success in the long-run. I'm going to start with positive things of course. He got rid of some players that we didn't needed and some players that we might have needed for a little while.

What has he done well with new, veterans and young players?


1. Bring Welker
2. Draft Channing Crowder
3. Travis Daniels as a young corner is something that I accept in the coming years.
4. Jason Allen will likely be a stud next season
5. Bringing in a strong veteran defensive tackles that will probably last until the next 3 seasons and thats it.


In My opinion those are key players in the future but the noticable offensive player is only Wes Welker which is very sad.

Bad Moves by Saban

1. Bringing in Mularkey's lack of success as a head coach is a mistake that he has to endure. I rather opt out for young and inventive offensive coordinators out there instead of hiring a failure even though he had success in the past as an offensive coordinator. He needs to go please.
2. Dave's Campo's move as a defensive coordinator isn't as bad as mularkeys since we have some defensive success but this is another move I regret saban move but I don't mind having him here for one more season.
3. Bringing in two flawed quarterbacks is another mistake he is going to regret. If saban doesn't use a pick on a young quarterback then I am going to get mad. These two men are past their potential. While Harrington might have a winning attitute, Dante has no winning attitute out there with all that potential.
4. His decision making when choosing our offensive lineman. While the line has improved a lot, I would focus on the off-season to try to acquire a left tackle with past winning success and a right guard with past winning success.


As far as people in our offense underachieving as the likes of Chambers and Mcmichaels. I have chosed to reserved my judgement because things are just so horrible in this offense and they are people who also don't show up but people who have showed up with guys like Fiedler and Ferrote but that makes it seem like the qb's throwing balls now are much worse than them.
 
juniorseau55 said:
I mean I do know that we have a great coach but some decisions that he probably regrets will haunt him until he puts more wins on the board. However with the way things are going this season and his decisions, we won't see no success in the long-run. I'm going to start with positive things of course. He got rid of some players that we didn't needed and some players that we might have needed for a little while.

What has he done well with new, veterans and young players?


1. Bring Welker
2. Draft Channing Crowder
3. Travis Daniels as a young corner is something that I accept in the coming years.
4. Jason Allen will likely be a stud next season
5. Bringing in a strong veteran defensive tackles that will probably last until the next 3 seasons and thats it.


In My opinion those are key players in the future but the noticable offensive player is only Wes Welker which is very sad.

Bad Moves by Saban

1. Bringing in Mularkey's lack of success as a head coach is a mistake that he has to endure. I rather opt out for young and inventive offensive coordinators out there instead of hiring a failure even though he had success in the past as an offensive coordinator. He needs to go please.
2. Dave's Campo's move as a defensive coordinator isn't as bad as mularkeys since we have some defensive success but this is another move I regret saban move but I don't mind having him here for one more season.
3. Bringing in two flawed quarterbacks is another mistake he is going to regret. If saban doesn't use a pick on a young quarterback then I am going to get mad. These two men are past their potential. While Harrington might have a winning attitute, Dante has no winning attitute out there with all that potential.
4. His decision making when choosing our offensive lineman. While the line has improved a lot, I would focus on the off-season to try to acquire a left tackle with past winning success and a right guard with past winning success.


As far as people in our offense underachieving as the likes of Chambers and Mcmichaels. I have chosed to reserved my judgement because things are just so horrible in this offense and they are people who also don't show up but people who have showed up with guys like Fiedler and Ferrote but that makes it seem like the qb's throwing balls now are much worse than them.
Dave Campo? Try Dom Capers.
 
juniorseau55 said:
Sarcasm? He is just as horrible as Dave Campo was as a head coach. LOL
Not sarcasm. Just pointing out that the guy you have pegged as the D-coordinator has zero to do with the team.

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Huge difference.
 
Saban didn't bring in Wes Welker... we signed him as an undrafted FA in 2004 while Wannstedt was still our Head Coach. Although, Saban was the first to utilize Welker as a receiver.
 
Ah, jr, jr, jr...tell us how many games did BB win without TBrady at QB?

The all great genius HC BB had to go 0-4 in his first year at NE (previously failing MISERABLY in Cleveland as a HC), then have DBledsoe's collapsed lungs fill up with blood before he put in TBrady at QB! Yea, that's freakin' genius.

BB doesn't do crap on the offensive side of the ball, TB is the reason that team has won ANYTHING since he was drafted. BB sux'd before TB and then he was a genius AFTER TB became the starter?? Yea, he's freakin' brillant. NOT.
 
jerwin, very uneducated statement. How come their defense is one of the best in the league? You fail to mention the way BB has formed a defense which is one of the best in the league, year in and year out.
 
painnotpleasure said:
Saban didn't bring in Wes Welker... we signed him as an undrafted FA in 2004 while Wannstedt was still our Head Coach. Although, Saban was the first to utilize Welker as a receiver.


Yeah that.

Welker was here before Saban.

That was the last and one of the few things Coach Wannstedt did right.
 
juniorseau55 said:
I mean I do know that we have a great coach but some decisions that he probably regrets will haunt him until he puts more wins on the board. However with the way things are going this season and his decisions, we won't see no success in the long-run. I'm going to start with positive things of course. He got rid of some players that we didn't needed and some players that we might have needed for a little while.

What has he done well with new, veterans and young players?


1. Bring Welker
2. Draft Channing Crowder
3. Travis Daniels as a young corner is something that I accept in the coming years.
4. Jason Allen will likely be a stud next season
5. Bringing in a strong veteran defensive tackles that will probably last until the next 3 seasons and thats it.


In My opinion those are key players in the future but the noticable offensive player is only Wes Welker which is very sad.

Bad Moves by Saban

1. Bringing in Mularkey's lack of success as a head coach is a mistake that he has to endure. I rather opt out for young and inventive offensive coordinators out there instead of hiring a failure even though he had success in the past as an offensive coordinator. He needs to go please.
2. Dave's Campo's move as a defensive coordinator isn't as bad as mularkeys since we have some defensive success but this is another move I regret saban move but I don't mind having him here for one more season.
3. Bringing in two flawed quarterbacks is another mistake he is going to regret. If saban doesn't use a pick on a young quarterback then I am going to get mad. These two men are past their potential. While Harrington might have a winning attitute, Dante has no winning attitute out there with all that potential.
4. His decision making when choosing our offensive lineman. While the line has improved a lot, I would focus on the off-season to try to acquire a left tackle with past winning success and a right guard with past winning success.


As far as people in our offense underachieving as the likes of Chambers and Mcmichaels. I have chosed to reserved my judgement because things are just so horrible in this offense and they are people who also don't show up but people who have showed up with guys like Fiedler and Ferrote but that makes it seem like the qb's throwing balls now are much worse than them.

I don't even know where to start :(
 
jerwin825 said:
Ah, jr, jr, jr...tell us how many games did BB win without TBrady at QB?

The all great genius HC BB had to go 0-4 in his first year at NE (previously failing MISERABLY in Cleveland as a HC), then have DBledsoe's collapsed lungs fill up with blood before he put in TBrady at QB! Yea, that's freakin' genius.

BB doesn't do crap on the offensive side of the ball, TB is the reason that team has won ANYTHING since he was drafted. BB sux'd before TB and then he was a genius AFTER TB became the starter?? Yea, he's freakin' brillant. NOT.

Well he did Draft Brady as a 6th rd pick so he did see things that all the other teams didn't in Mr Brady. In his book Patriot Reign Belichick knew that Bledsoe was a slug but you can't throw in a rookie and expect to win either. Bledsoe's days were numbered in NE right from Belichicks start. He knew how easy bledsoe was to defend and his defensive game plans against bledsoe were as good as gold. He was so confident that Drew was easy to defend and in his ability to own Bledsoe he even taded him to a divisional rival. How he do in buffalo Vs the Pats? 1-5 and the only game he won was the year they got Milloy who spoon fead drew all the defensive sets. Other than that Drew became Bills rented mule. Belichick finished out a 5-11 his first year in NE but he had cleaned house prior to the 2000 season. He got rid of a lot of vets and their top heavy salaries. You can say what you want you try to make it too cut and dry in your judgement of Belichick. He's built a good solid team of blue collar players with few big name guys and then built up a sold core of back ups that could step in and not skip a beat. He's continued to field a competitive team while losing some vets and many coordinators. That tells me his system of coaching and drafting the right type of players is very solid. I don't know if any of that makes him a genius but he is one of if not the best head coach in the game today and I'm sure if the Dolphins had a chance to bring him to Miami they would do it in a heart beat.
 
Hey, you can call us idiots if you want... But did you know Bill B. calls him a better coach? Take that to the bank, then get Saban's book. He will right this ship.
 
The only time Saban rights this sinking ship is the day he gets his pink slip.

:lol:
 
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