It's Very Simple - A Question for Finheaven

[J. David Wannyheimer]

We can talk about coaching schemes, individual players, specific plays, and all of that stuff until the cows come home. And to be honest, there's a lot to nitpick there. But as the great Vince Lombardi once said, it comes down to two things:

Blocking and tackling.

The Miami Dolphins under Joe Philbin can't do either of those things, and haven't been able to do either of those things for a while now. I suppose that's why we looked great against teams with lousy defensive lines and pass-happy offenses when we could actually get pressure on the quarterback. I guess that's why we thumped the Chargers. But you can not win football games when your backs are being hit three yards in the backfield, when your quarterback can't even set his plant foot, and when the first man to meet the opposing ball-carrier is unable or unwilling to impede his progress.

Now, I will give you two options to choose from here:

Option 1: The Miami Dolphins front office is SO BAD at identifying football talent that we simply don't have 22 players on the roster who could ever actually be capable of blocking or tackling in a professional football game.

Option 2: The Miami Dolphins coaching staff is SO BAD at coaching and developing football talent that we simply can't figure out how to get those 22 potential professional football players to have some basic measure of competence.

Anybody got any thoughts on this? Because I definitely know which option I think fits the bill.

 

[BillsFanInPeace]

I see a combination of both options sorry

 

[uk_dolfan]

Theres a third option - all around incompetence.

I know there is problems in coaching and I would clear out the entire front office tomorrow ... but the players must also be held properly accountable - some of the easy things, coverage, staying with your man, not giving a 15 yard cushion on 3rd and 10 ... and making some damn tackles, is fully on the players. As bad as Coyle may be, 3 players should not miss tackles on Clay within 5 seconds

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

I see a combination of both options sorry

That's because you struggle with basic reading comprehension. If you don't think there are 22 potentially competent football players on the roster, then you clearly believe that it should be option 1. If you do think there are 22 potentially competent football players on the roster, then you clearly believe it should be option 2.

As bad as Coyle may be, 3 players should not miss tackles on play within 5 seconds

Would you agree that fundamental elements of football, such as tackling, are things that a coaching staff can address?

 

[tcdrover]

It's #2.

Just look at all the former Dolphins on the Jest and Bill rosters.

The players asked Philbin to lighten up on practices just recently and he relented.

The patriots have, how many rookies STARTING on the offensive line this year?

We signed the two starting DT's from the Lions this year and we may be last in the NFL against the run in the first 3 games of the season.

The defense has finished worse every year since Coyle took over

 

[Brazzi]

Roster is poor. When your draft is Juwuan, Turner, Aikens, Lynch, Tripp that ends this debate. Not to mention weak camp that was put together this year. I believe when these guys practice in the bubble they are good against each other's weak arse, but when they face competition they break at seams.

 

[gafin]

I think #2, like Bum Phillips said about coach Shula "He can take his'n and beat your'n and take your'n and beat his'n." Most of it comes down to coaching. Yesterday we saw a little of that with our castoffs that play for Buffalo.

 

[tcdrover]

We probably are 3 and 0 if Sparano was the coach this year

or if Bruce Arians was the coach

or if Ken Whisenhunt was the coach

or if Ron Rivera was the coach

 

[MD]

It's two. The odds that every combination of guys along the OL are bad players is highly unlikely. It is clearly a scheme and coaching issue. There is talent but the talent doesn't want to play for these coaches. Simple.


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[EvilDylan]

#2 without a doubt.

 

[ONole1]

Philbin wanted a team created from his shadow. He is a passive mundane person. That is what he has as a team. Any player that had a pulse and fire has been shown the door. to quote The Captain, "some men you just can't reach. So we get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants is. Well, he get's it."

 

[Daytona Fin]

#2

Is it odd that Dophins castoffs more often than not seem to have success elsewhere? I'm not talking all-pro success but we deem players as unworthy of an NFL roster or our roster and yet other teams make those players work.

Looking at our play the last four years, I have to blame it on the coaching because it seems no matter who we bring in or draft, the problems that existed are still there, same old ****.

 

[Heinegrabber]

Lbs bite on everything. Watch them take two steps forward after every snap. I dont care if we are in dime the middle of the defense bites on everything. Put Missi back in the middle and dump one of these receivers while they still have value for a linebacker.

Zero Pressure. Maybe that injured marijuana puffer could have helped with that.

We were a better offensive line last year with MP at guard and SS at center. No discussion!!!!

Anyone miss Odrick?!?!?!?!?!?!?

PS....... Call Moreno I think he can triple our ground game with one good leg!!!!



Sorry about the rambling..........option 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[FinHopeful]

The truth is I do not know, but I vote for option 2. I have seen almost all of the players perform reasonably at least once.

 

[phins_4_ever]

It's two. The odds that every combination of guys along the OL are bad players is highly unlikely. It is clearly a scheme and coaching issue. There is talent but the talent doesn't want to play for these coaches. Simple.


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Excuse me? That's not an option for a player. If there is ever a player who does not want to play for a coach get rid of him. They are playing for a paycheck. The fans make that paycheck possible. A regular person does not have that option 'not wanting to work for a boss they don't like". Those people get fired.