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J.D. Quinn, What exactly do we have here?

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This weekend while contemplating how to spend the next 3 weeks until trainig camp and after hearing the many complaints about our lack of O-line depth I have decided to do some digging on J.D. Quinn, the undrafted OG/C we signed from the University of Montana. We all know he was busted with Rhett Bohmar for taking money from a car dealership and got 3 DUI's while in college, but what do we know about him as the football player.

As a junior in 2007, Quinn started five games at right guard and one at center for the Grizzlies, earning first-team All-Big Sky honors as well as honorable mention All-American honors.During the 2008 season, Quinn switched from right guard to center, was the starting center in the Football Championship Subdivision (formerly NCAA Div. II) title game which Montana lost to Richmond (Brandon London's dad coached the team)and earned second-team All-Big Sky honors. I was glad to learn that Quinn played both center and guard while at Montana, but I was hoping Quinn would have dominated the lesser competition. Due to his lack of accolades I just didn't see proof of that happening.

Next I turned to his pre-draft analysis, and that's where I found more of what I was looking for. SI.com reports Quinn as a big, nasty lineman who displays good football intelligence. Effective with shotgun snap, quickly gets into blocks and turns defenders off the line. Keeps his knees bent, moves his feet throughout the action, and displays solid overall body strength. Effectively quarterbacks the offensive line, and works well with teammates, displaying good blocking vision. This is exactly the kind of O-linemen our FO looks for big and nasty, with a high football IQ.

At his Montanta pro day Quinn actually didn't perform that bad. He measured in at 6-3 and 299 pounds and posted times of 5.26 and 5.22 in the 40. He completed 19 reps on the bench and a 27 1/2" verticle. He ran a 4.90 20-yard shuttle on a bad surface and an 8.09 second 3-cone drill, with an 8-0 foot broad jump. I was hoping for more reps on the bench but he did well in all other catergories. Strenth is something our offseason conditioning program will definately have helped him with.

Also, while looking I found quite a few teams would have had him on their draft board. Cameron Foster, Quinn's agents said 20 NFL teams told him that if not for the off-the-field issues, they had Quinn projected as a draft pick, some as high as the third round. Now this may be a players agent blowing smoke up the media's butt to get his player a better FA contract, but it may also very well be the truth. Why draft a player who has conduct problems, when you can sign him after the draft and use that pick on someone else. There is no need to lie to the agent especially if you are looking to sign him as a FA after the draft.

This area of personal conduct is what truely worries me when it comes to Quinn. He has stated through his agent that he is attending AA meetings and that he has realized he is his own worst enemy, but he said those things before and repeated the same suspect behavior. I am hoping for his sake he doesn't have a repeat performace as our FO will not hesitate to release him if he finds himself in trouble with the law again.

So let me know what you think. Can this kid be another FA diamond in the rough a-la Davone Bess, a practice squad developmental player, or is he destined to be another traing camp casualty. I know one things for sure, he is one person I will definately be paying attention to come training camp.
 
As a junior in 2007, Quinn started five games at right guard and one at center for the Grizzlies, earning first-team All-Big Sky honors as well as honorable mention All-American honors. During the 2008 season, Quinn switched from right guard to center, was the starting center in the Football Championship Subdivision (formerly NCAA Div. II) title game which Montana lost to Richmond (Kendall Langfords alma mater)and earned second-team All-Big Sky honors. I was glad to learn that Quinn played both center and guard while at Montana, but I was hoping Quinn would have dominated the lesser competition. Due to his lack of accolades I just didn't see proof of that happening.

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Good writeup except Kendall Lang went to Hampton U. I think London's father is the coach of Richmond...
 
Good writeup except Kendall Lang went to Hampton U. I think London's father is the coach of Richmond...

Thanks, Londond played for his dad there as well. For some reason I always think both Langford and London played there.
 
Thanks, Londond played for his dad there as well. For some reason I always think both Langford and London played there.

Actually, London played at Mass., but you've probably read stories of London and his dad's relationship and got mixed up..
 
I think this kid will compete for playing time this year........He played at a big school before his behaivor got the best of him. We need all the competition we can get on the OL......injuries to the line could kill our season if we don't have quality back ups. What I like the best about his pre-draft analysis, Big, nasty lineman who displays good football intelligence.
 
If you believe Sparano, we have a guy that is one mistake with booze away from being off the team.

True, but also could be that acorn they like to pick up.. I'm not sure where he is in terms of making this team, his bench press doesn't impress as to having the power to get the job done.. but if he has good leverage and technique, who knows.. I just don't know enough about him, other than what I've read, like the original post here, which I've seen simular things written up in other places..
 
True, but also could be that acorn they like to pick up.. I'm not sure where he is in terms of making this team, his bench press doesn't impress as to having the power to get the job done.. but if he has good leverage and technique, who knows.. I just don't know enough about him, other than what I've read, like the original post here, which I've seen simular things written up in other places..

I don't recall the article, but it was stated clearly that Sparano say Quinn down and explained that one alchol related incident and, he was off the team. I would not say that's the same for every acorn we pick up. I hope he can do well, I really do, because he's one of the guys we are depending on to back up our interior line.
 
What exactly do we have here?? HMMMMMMMMM . An alcholic and thief with plenty of raw talent. Hopefully he can keep his head out of the bottle.
 
I think Quinn is lucky to make the practice squad.... I think he needs more time to get bigger and stronger as well as improve his technique....along with becoming more mature overall. I don't think he is where he needs to be to stand up for a long grueling NFL season. But will be fun to see what happens....
 
Amazing the tolerence given to a guy who has three dui's. The only real differance between him and Stallworth is pure luck. I guess drunk driving really is not that big a deal like illegally fighting dogs although it has much more of a an impact on society.

Im not up in arms about him on the team or anybody else though because I dont think of football players as only the best of society. I do hope that he doesnt have a driver's license anymore or never can attain one but I doubt he has those restrictions.

Good write up though. Quinn was considered a pretty good prospect before he was kicked off Oklahoma. Most of the time though people with a history like his never keep themselves right enough to stick in the NFL or anything else. He is worth a gamble though.
 
Amazing the tolerence given to a guy who has three dui's. The only real differance between him and Stallworth is pure luck. I guess drunk driving really is not that big a deal like illegally fighting dogs although it has much more of a an impact on society.

Im not up in arms about him on the team or anybody else though because I dont think of football players as only the best of society. I do hope that he doesnt have a driver's license anymore or never can attain one but I doubt he has those restrictions.

Good write up though. Quinn was considered a pretty good prospect before he was kicked off Oklahoma. Most of the time though people with a history like his never keep themselves right enough to stick in the NFL or anything else. He is worth a gamble though.

Well, the main difference is that we have people on the team that have been convicted of multiple DUIs. We do not have anyone on the team that has been conviceted of, or has been proven to fight dogs (Even though both of us believe he has)

I'm not up in arms about Quinn being on the team.....Nor am I up in arms about a guy that has beaten his girlfreind being on the team. FWIW, I think spousal abuse is a worse crime against society than either drunk driving or dogfighting.
 
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