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• With Miami not likely to land free agent Josh Norman, cornerback remains a high priority, though we hear a few other players also intrigue the Dolphins with their first-round pick if they fall to their range at No. 13.

If the Dolphins rate a non-cornerback as the best player on their board when they're picking at No. 13, there's a belief they could still land a quality corner at 42 and/or 73, a prospect such as UM’s Artie Burns (if there at 42) or Baylor’s Xavien Howard or Virginia Tech's Kendall Fuller or Samford's James Bradberry, among others.

Drafting two corners is very much a possibility.
Ohio State running back Ezekiel Elliott’s visit here Tuesday went very well, he would welcome the Dolphins drafting him if he slips to 13, and Miami has strong interest, according to someone involved. He already has a lease on an apartment in Miami, though that has nothing to do with any possibility of him landing with the Dolphins.

Meanwhile, the Dolphins recently sent a contingent to Los Angeles to conduct a private workout with UCLA’s Myles Jack, the draft’s best linebacker. There’s Dolphins interest if he surprisingly slips out of the top 10.

• What about UF’s 5-10 Vernon Hargreaves, who could be the best corner available at 13? Though he cannot be ruled out if he’s the best player available, I do know this: There is some resistance to Hargreaves among some Dolphins scouting/front office people who believe he’s undersized and see him more as a nickel back. Miami’s preference is a big, physical boundary corner.

The Dolphins prefer bigger corners in general and are intrigued by Houston’s William Jackson and Ohio State’s Eli Apple, two 6-1 corners who visited. Jackson at No. 13 is certainly a possibility, but analysts disagree about whether Jackson is good value at 13. (Mel Kiper says he’s not.) Most pundits have Apple in the 20s or lower.

One Dolphins official said trading down from 13 for a corner would be a consideration, if there's not a player at 13 that Miami covets in that range and if it believes one of the tall corners would be available later in the first round.

• Besides Jack, Elliott and the corners, the Dolphins have closely studied a handful of first-round front-seven defenders, including Clemson defensive ends Kevin Dodd(visited, but 13 is higher than projected) and Shaq Lawson and linebackers LeonardFloyd (Georgia), Reggie Ragland (Alabama) and Darron Lee (the Ohio State product is Kiper’s choice for the Dolphins, but at 6-1, 232 pounds isn’t their ideal size preference).

Ragland told Sirius XM tonight that he made seven visits in the past two weeks, and the Dolphins, Bears and Saints have shown the most interest in him. And we've also been told the Dolphins like Ragland.

• As one of several fallback options, the Dolphins have discussed taking one of the top offensive tackles if one slips and moving him to guard, though 13 is high for a guard. Kiper said would take Texas A&M guard/tackle Germain Ifedi (who visited Miami) in the first round. But 13 would seem too high.

• The Dolphins, looking for a skilled returner who could lessen Jarvis Landry’sworkload on special teams, have been in touch with several. They summoned Texas Tech’s 5-6 Jakeem Grant to Davie this week; he had four kickoff returns for touchdowns in his career and a 26.2 average last season. At UCLA, they auditioned Devin Fuller (24.2 kickoff average last season), among others.

They’re open to finding competition for kicker Andrew Franks and dispatched special teams coach Darren Rizzi or other staffers to privately audition several, including Texas’ Nick Rose and Albright’s Daniel Sobolewski.

• One team official said the past coaching staff didn’t use tight end Jordan Cameron to his strengths and expects that to change… Dolphins conversations remain ongoing with free agent defensive end Jason Jones, with both sides interested.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/spor...re-player-workouts-and-more-whiteside-wa.html
 
I tend to agree hargreaves size isnt great for our scheme on the boundary...take apple...no brainer imo

Press and cover 2 no damn brainer

If you trade out and get trumped clown shoes

i will keep preaching it take eli apple
 
I tend to agree hargreaves size isnt great for our scheme on the boundary...take apple...no brainer imo

Press and cover 2 no damn brainer

If you trade out and get trumped clown shoes

i will keep preaching it take eli apple

I'm glad they saw Jack again and the other considerations seem ok and probably as about as accurate is one could get from Jackson one week out...does it scare you the interest level in Ragland? That's the one of all that worries me the most - although maybe that would be in a trade down scenario.
 
i really like the ide of trading down and selecting Germain Ifedi in the 20s. The guy is an amazing guard and a tackle. Two positions filled with him and we can still get the corner at 42.
 
If Griff Ahalen is going to make the final roster I would suspect it to be contingent on him holding down some aspect of the return duties, either punt or kickoff returns. I don't think he's good enough to hold a roster spot as a receiver only.
 
I'm glad they saw Jack again and the other considerations seem ok and probably as about as accurate is one could get from Jackson one week out...does it scare you the interest level in Ragland? That's the one of all that worries me the most.

Ragland on our scheme is stupid...thats a 34 silb ideal fit...his range is best suited for it...if you want a 3 down lb out of ragland put him in a pittsburgh like scheme where lawrence timmons doesnt come off the field on the nickel/sub...thats the correct fit...hes not a win vs tackles edge rusher in the sub and neither is ragland...hes a cover flats and backs and under zone and not carry coverage

Top 15 none nose tackle you damn well better play every down...period

Kiko alonso should be miamis mike in 2016 you traded for him worst case you need 2 down athlete level out of him...

They arent selling me on anything different

If jack gets there and hes medically cleared by miami then i take him purely out of need to limit gronk for the next 6 to 8 years...hes about the best chance you will ever have

I dont think jacks getting there unless the medical is real damn sketchy
 
If Griff Ahalen is going to make the final roster I would suspect it to be contingent on him holding down some aspect of the return duties, either punt or kickoff returns. I don't think he's good enough to hold a roster spot as a receiver only.

No doubt he is JAG brought in to compete for that special teams/last receiver type spot.

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Ragland on our scheme is stupid...thats a 34 silb ideal fit...his range is best suited for it...if tou want a 3 down lb out of ragland put him in a pittsburgh like scheme where lawrence timmons doesnt come off the field on the nickel/sub...thats the correct fit

Top 15 none nose tackle you damn well better play every down...period

Kiko alonso should be miamis mike in 2016 you traded for him worst case you need 2 down athlete level out of him...

They arent selling me on anything different

I agree but the interest level seems real that's my concern, we heard it from Jackson before and others and Ragland himself tonight.
 
No doubt he is JAG brought in to compete for that special teams/last receiver type spot.

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I agree but the interest level seems real that's my concern, we heard it from Jackson before and others and Ragland himself tonight.

Well if they do it its clown shoes
 
So did Cameron's contract ever get restructured? Or are they paying him $7-8mil for the year?
 
If they trade out and still get apple i will give them a

:knee:

If they get trumped im gonna roast the **** out of them

You got everything you need for your scheme and nfl ready even and you are trying to get cute
 
Jackson over Apple all day long! Jackson comes in and has a Marcus peters type impact right off the bat
 
I think they view it as best case/worst case

Elliott
The corners Apple,Jackson, VHIII
Ragland

I think in that order is their best case to worst case at 13 and no trade happens.
 
Unless something strange happens like Miles Jack or Zeke Elliott dropping, I think corner is the pick. I know people are saying Miami can wait until #42, but I think a lot of good ones will be gone by then.

I like the trade down scenario to get Eli Apple or William Jackson III. Still not sure which I prefer. Sounds like Vernon Hargreaves is not in the equation, which is sad if true.
 
Not a big Apple fan, would rather have McKenzie Alexander or Jackson III. Apple's biggest knock is he can't adjust to the deep ball throws which in my opinion is a DB's number one priorty is to be able to track the deep ball and not get beat deep. We need an impact player! IMHO.....Apple isn't it!
 
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