Jarvis Landry: Rookie of the Year Possible for Dolphins WR?

[Zounds]

Bortles for OROY, and Clowney or Mosley for DROY.

 

[BlueFin]

I really am surprised at how many seem to think there is little chance of Landry surpassing the likes of Gibson and Matthews on this team?

Gibson has played for several years in this league and never surpassed 53 receptions, never reached 700 yards receiving...and 5 touchdowns was his peak. Not exactly eyepopping , secure in your position type numbers.

Matthews?....What has he done in this league?...Almost nothing?
Besides that there was the know dissatisfaction of the coaching staff with him last year.

Why?...Because the one series we've seen so far with starters showcased Gibson & Matthews with Wallace and Hartline sitting out? When Landry didn't get a decent ball thrown his way playing with a training camp fodder QB?


I'll go out on this limb right now, because I see special in this kid....he will out produce both of those receivers this year.

 

[BlueFin]

Oh yeah...and 54....Troy Stradford...NFL rookie of the year 1987

 

[roy_miami]

Whether Landry gets named Offensive Rookie of the Year or not, (and probably not due to Fins receiver circumstances), to me is less important than knowing that more than 24 GMs, whether they admit it or not, will likely be shaking their heads bemoaning not having the smarts to draft him either in the first round or at least before he went at the end of the second.

Yeah just being in the discussion would be a win for Hickey. Especially if James turns out to be a really good RT and we win 10 or 12 games.

 

[hoops]

cooks has evidently won the return job in new orleans and he's the lead slot with a top 5 qb in his prime...he's gonna do damage...not sure he could have been drafted for a better fit...i don't think he's as polished a route runner as landry but he's more explosive no doubt about it...sick quick acceleration

if landry had that speed and acceleration he'd be unstoppable with his skill set and ball skills...

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

I really am surprised at how many seem to think there is little chance of Landry surpassing the likes of Gibson and Matthews on this team?

Gibson has played for several years in this league and never surpassed 53 receptions, never reached 700 yards receiving...and 5 touchdowns was his peak. Not exactly eyepopping , secure in your position type numbers.

Gibson spent some years playing with the Rams, with Sam Badford as his QB.

He was probably our best receiver last season before he got hurt at about the halfway point. So yeah, I don't think Landry is just going to waltz in and take his job.

 

[BlueFin]

cooks has evidently won the return job in new orleans and he's the lead slot with a top 5 qb in his prime...he's gonna do damage...not sure he could have been drafted for a better fit...i don't think he's as polished a route runner as landry but he's more explosive no doubt about it...sick quick acceleration

if landry had that speed and acceleration he'd be unstoppable with his skill set and ball skills...

Often in NFL history...the skills Landry excells in are more important to NFL greatness than track speed.

See Jerry Rice, Anquan Boldin and Mark Clayton to name just a few.

 

[hoops]

Often in NFL history...the skills Landry excells in are more important to NFL greatness than track speed.

See Jerry Rice, Anquan Boldin and Mark Clayton to name just a few.

cooks is quite skilled in his own right...he's a football player too...i don't know if he's as tough as landry in a like pound for pound sense and as a downfield blocker type and effort type but he's not that far off

it's not just straight line speed...this isn't ted ginn gather speed and beeline for the sideline after the catch type stuff to avoid contact

 

[BlueFin]

Gibson spent some years playing with the Rams, with Sam Badford as his QB.

He was probably our best receiver last season before he got hurt at about the halfway point. So yeah, I don't think Landry is just going to waltz in and take his job.

Not sure what your basing that on....at the the time of his injury he was out produced by both Wallace and Hartline.

This guy had a grand total of about 600 yards and 3 tds his senior year.

Nothing in his college or pro career indicates anything beyond average.

Here is a good evaluation Of him before the 2009 draft....where he went in the 6th round

Strengths: Known to have great work ethic . . . Competes for the ball in the traffic very well.  Does a good job adjusting to the ball in the air and making a play on poor passes. Catches the ball consistently at its highest point. Maintains good concentration when the ball is coming from over his shoulder and he knows a defender is bearing down on him. While Gibson is not the best blocker around, he gives a good effort. Strong enough to hold up a block for more than just a brief period of time.

Weaknesses: Only average hands. Had some struggles early during the 2008 season with dropped passes. Takes a while to get up to speed. Has a hard time breaking away in the open field. Could do a better job finding a hole in a zone and sitting in it. Below-average quickness and agility for a receiver. Not very slippery after the catch, Gibson won’t make many defenders miss on tackles. Has never gotten many yards after the catch. Benefited from playing Washington State’s spread, particularly his first three years with Alex Brink as his quarterback. Doesn’t have great agility or quick-twitch muscles. While Gibson has been mostly healthy his entire college career, he’s had some injuries linger on him.
They project him as a 5th round pick

With all that said...I think he is a solid average type receiver...I see nothing special there stopping a really talented football player from unseating him.

Just as rookie Zach Thomas unseated a veteran Jack Del Rio.

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

Not sure what your basing that on....at the the time of his injury he was out produced by both Wallace and Hartline.

This guy had a grand total of about 600 yards and 3 tds his senior year.

Nothing in his college or pro career indicates anything beyond average.

Here is a good evaluation Of him before the 2009 draft....where he went in the 6th round

We were also force-feeding the ball to Mike Wallace at various points in the year. On 3rd down, on 4th down, in the 2 minute drill, who was the #1 target?

 

[BlueFin]

cooks is quite skilled in his own right...he's a football player too...i don't know if he's as tough as landry in a like pound for pound sense and as a downfield blocker type and effort type but he's not that far off

it's not just straight line speed...this isn't ted ginn gather speed and beeline for the sideline after the catch type stuff to avoid contact

Don't get me wrong...Cooks was my 1st round pick choice...I was commenting more on the overrated track speed aspect of playing wide receiver.

 

[Sirspud]

Not sure what your basing that on....at the the time of his injury he was out produced by both Wallace and Hartline.

You act as if Wallace and Hartline were leaving him in the dust when he was our top receiver in 2 of our first 6 games, and our best red zone target of the three. You would expect a receiving corps featuring two former 1,000 yard receivers on the outside to spread the ball around, and Gibson was there for his QB as much as the others.

I don't think he's a star, but he's a very reliable target who has the potential to be our primary target in any games he's in, and it's completely ridiculous to take a position of depth and undo that by cutting talented players and leaving yourself vulnerable to a single injury being your undoing at that position. Our receiving corps was our best strength out of the gate last year but with one injury we became an offense on trainer wheels at times because we only had three capable receivers for entire games.