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Former Iowa State defensive end/linebacker Jason Berryman held his pro day at the school's campus last Tuesday in Ames, Iowa. He ran between 4.72 and 4.78 seconds in the 40 and also registered times of 4.48 in the short shuttle and 7.38 in the three-cone drills. Berryman also leaped 32 inches in the vertical jump and 9-11 in the broad jump and did 17 reps at 225 pounds. The 6-1, 235-pound Berryman did positional drills as a defensive end and outside linebacker, but most teams paid close attention to his footwork and backpedal during the linebacker drills. A number of teams were in attendance, including Green Bay Packers director of college scouting John Dorsey, who conducted the workout.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jm-supplemental061806&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
 
He's only 6-1, 235 pounds???

That's VERY small for a DE.
Even for a DE/OLB hybrid, that's certainly not big...

17 reps is not much for a DE/OLB. I would've thought around mid-20's.
A 4.7+ 40 is not very fast either.......pretty average.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.
 
Pretty pathetic if you ask me. But who knows, he could be a football player and not a workout stud.
 
Yeah, what would Zach Thomas do in the combine right? I could care less. This isn't madden. With that said I think his numbers arent good enough since he has off field issues
 
Whenever a player has a poor workout, especially a linebacker, he seems to be inevitably compared to Zach Thomas. Letting a player off the hook by using Zach as an example of a player who isn't particularly big, strong, or fast isn't very realistic. Zach is a very rare exception to the rule.

I think Berryman's poor workout combined with character issues and his limited size make him a huge risk. I can't imagine a team spending more than a 5th round pick on him. Personally, I hope we pass on him.

David Dixon, who could probably be had for a late round pick, seems to have the bigger upside. He is a great athlete, which Saban has said repeatedly he looks for. How well he can absorb a complicated NFL playbook remains to be seen and will probably determine where he is drafted.
 
Don't like those numbers at all. I think that workouts are overrated anyways, so whatever.
 
It's not really a pathetic workout. That judgment gets made in a vaccuum without other numbers to compare it to. If he were part of this year's LB class I believe those numbers grant him 3rd out of 10 decile rank in my linebacker athleticism model. So I mean, not GREAT, but not "pathetic" either.
 
I agree CK...compared with other first rounders this year it's pretty comparible. With Berryman, he's not really numbers guy. He is a football player and is quick and has a good motor. whether the phins take him or not, he'll get picked up somewhere. If Saban wants to take the risk on his off the field issues is yet to be seen but you can't doubt that he has skills on the field.
 
bgphin said:
I agree CK...compared with other first rounders this year it's pretty comparible. With Berryman, he's not really numbers guy. He is a football player and is quick and has a good motor. whether the phins take him or not, he'll get picked up somewhere. If Saban wants to take the risk on his off the field issues is yet to be seen but you can't doubt that he has skills on the field.
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I wouldn't go that far. His numbers aren't comparable to those of a first rounder. His numbers are comparable to some of the guys that went in the 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th rounds...but most of those guys were not DE/OLB converts.
 
CK who is some1 you would compare him too from this years draft? Do you think athletically he is that far away from other DE/OLB like wimbley who other than having 2 inches on him, are comparable with there speed and weight.
 
Lazy1 said:
CK who is some1 you would compare him too from this years draft? Do you think athletically he is that far away from other DE/OLB like wimbley who other than having 2 inches on him, are comparable with there speed and weight.
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Way, way far away from Wimbley. Kamerion Wimbley actually put up something close to the performance that Mike Mamula put on all those years ago that led everyone to dub him superman and the most impressive physical specimen they'd ever seen. It's a testament to how far athleticism has come in these college players that Kamerion Wimbley nearly reproduces the same performance, and Manny Lawson outright shreds it, and nobody says anything.

Athletically he's down there with guys like Tim McGarigle, Omar Gaither, Tim Dobbins, Keith Ellison.

Or rather, he's like a smaller version of Stanley McClover...or Parys Haralson.
 
Those numbers are almost like my workout...well, if I prepared. Except, I don't think I'd get to a 32 inch verticle and it would be hard to put on 40 pounds and be that fast. Everything else is "man on the street" numbers almost.

And yes, Zach had bad numbers but he had almost 20 tackles a game too. How were this kid's real stats? Tackles? Tackles for loss? Sacks? Games played without injury? Picks? Forced fumbles?
 
Good stats, I don't really feel like digging them up. Really high tackle production considering he's a defensive end. I mean DEs you don't really expect to average like 7 tackles a game like he did. Really broke onto the scene as a freshman for what promised to be one heck of a career until he got busted for mugging a student and sent to jail for 8 months. When he got back on the team he had an ok 2005 season and got better as the season wore on, finishing it off with something crazy like 4.5 sacks against TCU's vaunted offensive line in the Houston Bowl. He just dominated that game in a rare way, in front of his home crowd too (he's from Houston).

I did a thread on him in VIP...if you're a VIP member you can go look that up.

You can't really compare Berryman's stats to a true MLB like Zach because JB was a DE in school...he just projects to OLB as a pro. Zach was the Butkus Award winner for best LB in the country. Hard to imagine the Butkus Award winner going all the way in the 5th round during any given year.
 
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