Regan21286
Wa Wa Wee Wa
Indeed. Makes me wish we had Bynum even more. And how we traded Caron Butler for him is beyond me.
Jason Kidd asks Nets to Trade him
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Indeed. Makes me wish we had Bynum even more. And how we traded Caron Butler for him is beyond me.
I said this a few years ago and I'll say it again:
Rob Thorn would be the dumbest GM in the association if he doesn't move both Jason Kidd & Vince Carter, and move them fast. It's time for the Nets to rebuild and let the young guys - Marcus Williams, Antoine Wright, Josh Boone - gain some experience. Obviously they'd be a horrific team for the next 2-3 years, but you're almost guaranteed to get a ton of young talent and/or draft picks when trading Kidd & Carter, and the talent pool is already at least half-decent (also, consider Richard Jefferson is only 27 and having a career year). I mean, what's the point?
Unless you can get a proven big man for Kidd, then there's no point in keeping Carter either.
Rob Thorn would be the dumbest GM in the association if he doesn't move both Jason Kidd & Vince Carter, and move them fast. It's time for the Nets to rebuild and let the young guys - Marcus Williams, Antoine Wright, Josh Boone - gain some experience. Obviously they'd be a horrific team for the next 2-3 years, but you're almost guaranteed to get a ton of young talent and/or draft picks when trading Kidd & Carter, and the talent pool is already at least half-decent (also, consider Richard Jefferson is only 27 and having a career year). I mean, what's the point?
Unless you can get a proven big man for Kidd, then there's no point in keeping Carter either.
mixmaster_matt
LETS GO METS
Well Rod Thorn is no moron, actually probably one of if not the best GMs in basketball.. Can't blame him for this teams falters right now, they just aren't putting it together on the court. He isn't going to the lakers, b/c all the nets wanted out of the lakers was Bynum, and he won't get traded, or can't get traded b/c he is hurt. Maybe he will go to Dallas, or Phoenix. As we all know you never get an equal trade back for a superstar, so we will just have to wait and see how this plays out...
NJFINSFAN1
FinHeaven Elite
That's what they want, either an old expiring contracts and young players and draft picks.
phunwin
The name's Bond...James Bond.
A trade for Kidd will most likely need to be a three-team deal. I think Dallas will get him, but I don't think the Mavs will give up Josh Howard, and if they give up Devin Harris, the gap in salary (about $16 million) will be too big to swallow. The Mavs don't have anywhere near enough expiring contracts to make that work, and the Nets would be foolish to take on a bunch of long-term contracts at this point. Hell, they might as well keep Kidd for another year and a half, and let the contract come off their cap.
So a third team with cap room will need to be involved, and said team will need to be compensated for taking a bunch of crappy salaries with some draft picks and/or talent. And that's going to be a pain in the rear.
All told, I don't think it's a certainty that they'll trade Kidd.
So a third team with cap room will need to be involved, and said team will need to be compensated for taking a bunch of crappy salaries with some draft picks and/or talent. And that's going to be a pain in the rear.
All told, I don't think it's a certainty that they'll trade Kidd.
Ferretsquig
Perennial All-Pro
You don't find the two statements to be contradicting one another? The best possible scenario has the Nets becoming the third best team in the East. Whats the point in that? I know GMs always hate to admit failure, but the Carter deal was a lousy one and its going to be tough to get rid of. He needs to swallow his pride and dump the trio for whatever he can get.
BAMAPHIN 22
FinHeaven Elite
The New Jersey Nets are in serious negotiations with the Dallas Mavericks and Portland Trail Blazers about a blockbuster three-way trade that would send Jason Kidd to the Mavericks, league sources said Wednesday afternoon.
In the proposed trade, Dallas and Portland would send the Nets a package that includes the Mavs' Devean George and Jerry Stackhouse and Blazers forwards Travis Outlaw and Channing Frye and guard Jarrett Jack.
Mavericks point guard Devin Harris would be sent to Portland. Along with Kidd, the Nets would send reserve forward Malik Allen and center Jamaal Magloire to Dallas.
The Nets would also receive at least one future No. 1 pick and cash. It's expected that New Jersey would work a buyout with Stackhouse and allow him to be a free agent. Other players could be included to balance the exchange of contracts.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_y...B?slug=aw-kiddtrade013008&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
In the proposed trade, Dallas and Portland would send the Nets a package that includes the Mavs' Devean George and Jerry Stackhouse and Blazers forwards Travis Outlaw and Channing Frye and guard Jarrett Jack.
Mavericks point guard Devin Harris would be sent to Portland. Along with Kidd, the Nets would send reserve forward Malik Allen and center Jamaal Magloire to Dallas.
The Nets would also receive at least one future No. 1 pick and cash. It's expected that New Jersey would work a buyout with Stackhouse and allow him to be a free agent. Other players could be included to balance the exchange of contracts.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_y...B?slug=aw-kiddtrade013008&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Not at all. the 3rd best team in a conference has a chance to get to the nba finals. Its tough cause you will likely have to go through the 2 and the 1 team, but it can be done.
For the record, I felt the carter move was a mistake as well because he and Jefferson are duplicate players. But I wouldnt be at all shocked if one of them was moved as well in a separete deal.
King Felix
live it up have no worries
wow whatta joke, travis outlaw is definatlly not getting traded, if we traded outlaw, we would have to get back more than harris...i want harris but thats to spendy
Amars
Championship or nothing.
I dont know why they Jailblazers will be involve. They dont need to do anything but get experience. For the record yes I think the Jailblazer have pretty good young squad and should do some noise pretty soon if Oden isnt a bust.
phunwin
The name's Bond...James Bond.
Outlaw's a nice player, Channing Frye's a nice big off the bench, and Jarrett Jack isn't a bad point guard, but if you can package those guys and get one of the best young point guards in the league, you do it 10 out of 10 times. Outlaw is a good player, but Martell Webster's a small forward, too, and he fits the team's long-term plans much better than Outlaw does anyway.
Long term, you've got Oden and Aldridge in the frontcourt, with Roy at the 2. Pairing Roy and Harris gives the Blazers a very athletic backcourt, with two guys who are very good at getting to the rim, and both are very good distributors. Oden and Aldridge are both good low post scorers with range out to 12 or 15 feet. All you need is a guy to stretch the defense with long range shooting, which happens to be Webster's long suit. Webster's still very young, and the more minutes he gets now, the better he'll be next year. And despite their good play, it's next year (and several years after) that's Portland's focus.
I think Portland makes out really well in this trade. And quite honestly, I'm not sure I'd do it if I were the Mavs. I don't think that Kidd is so much better than Harris at this point that it justifies this deal. Harris has a better PER this year, and defensively, Harris makes more sense for the Mavs than Kidd, since the Western Conference tends to feature quicker point guards than the East.
The Confessor
Doesnt play well with others
I forget the people involved, but I was actually hearing that Cleveland might be the front-runner in this merry-go-round now..Anybody have any more insight?
GreenMonster
Never con a con man
Any Jason Kidd trade should have been made 2 years ago. No way I am moving Devin Harris for Jason Kidd.
Enforcerfin33
Los Lonely Boys the Return....
What about Darius Miles? Is he still in Portland? What a bust he has been.
Dude, Harris has a ton of upside, I agree 100 percent, but right now he isn't on Jason Kidd's level, even at 34. Jason Kidd will make any team better. Look what he's done for the Nets franchise since he's been there. Jason Kidd is a triple double just waiting to happen. I think this deal works for everyone except the Nets. I just don't understand what the Nets are getting out of the deal. Their not getting a star, their not getting a lottery pick (if Portland makes the playoffs), so I don't really understand what the Nets get except for cap relief. I like this deal for the Mavs though. They get Kidd, and you can take it to the bank that their not going home in the first round again, even if they have to re-match Golden State!