(sorry i posted this under a poor title earlier)
Hear me out on this one. Matt Ryan is going to be the number one pick (not by us tho). and Jason Taylor is going to be a Miami Dolphin.
I was thinking about Joey Porter and how long he might end up on the team, when I came across his numbers that Clumpy posted. I believe in order to cut Porter it wouls cost us 17.6 million this year based on this info. It got me thinking about the whole situation with Taylor, Pace, Porter, and our number one pick...... here's what I came up with...
Originally Posted by Clumpy
NFLPA salaries
2007 800000.00
2008 4800000.00
2009 4800000.00
2010 3600000.00
2011 4500000.00
$12 million signing bonus/5 yrs = $2.4 million proration per year
If he did have an $8 million roster bonus, his 2008 cap number would be $15.2 million
I have been trying to find out the breakdown for months but my "insider" who helps me with numbers hasn't replied to this request
Also, if he really did have an $8 million roster bonus, I would suspect he would be part of the rebuilding process and cut or traded
However, another possibility is that the $8 million is an option payment and is amortized at $2 million/year......if this were the case: 4.8 + 2 + 2.4 = $9.2 million cap hit
which seems to make the most sense otherwise that eight million would be on this years cap and (of the 15.2 total) and we couldnt possibly have had 44 million in cap space according to the NFLPA. seems most likely it is prorated and if we wanted to cut the guy at any time it would cost us 4.4 million per year left on the contract at this point it would cost us 17.6 million!!!!! next year 13.2 following year 8.8.
We have Joey Porter for at least the next two years folks, and there no doubt about it!!
However, (to contradict myself and speculate) it would be possible since we do have some cap space if Bill really wasn't convinced Porter could be part of the rebuilding that this might be, in part, a reason to get rid of Taylor. The reason being Taylor saves about 5 million in cap space I believe if traded, which would at least make it possible to cut Porter loose and still be ok this year and SWARMING in cap space next year.
I don't see how this makes sense though. We don't have ANYBODY on the roster that's proven they can provide a pass rush from the outside besides Taylor and Porter, and to cut them both loose would be defensive suicide, since the defense is built on the outside pass rush. Just don't see how that can be in the plans. In fact, I can't see now that we couldn't land Pace how it would even make sense to allow Taylor to go.
THo either one of them on the move would certainly tip our hand in the draft after you consider the possiblities, and the loss of Pace. (which also would explain why Parcells was adamant in his denials Taylor was on the move). I believe if Pace had signed Taylor was on the move and we were listening to offers tho not soliciting them. At this point I believe he stays in Miami unless we get an outrageous offer (more than just a number 1 pick)
As long as Ryan continues to distinguish himself (ie proday) as the clear cut number one guy, I think Parcells ends up trading that pick to either Kansas City, Atlanta, Baltimore, or possibly the Jets. I think there are some teams at the top that when the time comes might decide they have to get their franchise guy, and if somebody besides Atlanta decides they want a QB, Atlanta will be forced to trade to get him.
Number three is the perfect spot for us to move as well, because it ensures the fact that we either get Gholston or Howies boy, the two guys, i believe, Parcells has coveted all along
Hear me out on this one. Matt Ryan is going to be the number one pick (not by us tho). and Jason Taylor is going to be a Miami Dolphin.
I was thinking about Joey Porter and how long he might end up on the team, when I came across his numbers that Clumpy posted. I believe in order to cut Porter it wouls cost us 17.6 million this year based on this info. It got me thinking about the whole situation with Taylor, Pace, Porter, and our number one pick...... here's what I came up with...
Originally Posted by Clumpy
NFLPA salaries
2007 800000.00
2008 4800000.00
2009 4800000.00
2010 3600000.00
2011 4500000.00
$12 million signing bonus/5 yrs = $2.4 million proration per year
If he did have an $8 million roster bonus, his 2008 cap number would be $15.2 million
I have been trying to find out the breakdown for months but my "insider" who helps me with numbers hasn't replied to this request
Also, if he really did have an $8 million roster bonus, I would suspect he would be part of the rebuilding process and cut or traded
However, another possibility is that the $8 million is an option payment and is amortized at $2 million/year......if this were the case: 4.8 + 2 + 2.4 = $9.2 million cap hit
which seems to make the most sense otherwise that eight million would be on this years cap and (of the 15.2 total) and we couldnt possibly have had 44 million in cap space according to the NFLPA. seems most likely it is prorated and if we wanted to cut the guy at any time it would cost us 4.4 million per year left on the contract at this point it would cost us 17.6 million!!!!! next year 13.2 following year 8.8.
We have Joey Porter for at least the next two years folks, and there no doubt about it!!
However, (to contradict myself and speculate) it would be possible since we do have some cap space if Bill really wasn't convinced Porter could be part of the rebuilding that this might be, in part, a reason to get rid of Taylor. The reason being Taylor saves about 5 million in cap space I believe if traded, which would at least make it possible to cut Porter loose and still be ok this year and SWARMING in cap space next year.
I don't see how this makes sense though. We don't have ANYBODY on the roster that's proven they can provide a pass rush from the outside besides Taylor and Porter, and to cut them both loose would be defensive suicide, since the defense is built on the outside pass rush. Just don't see how that can be in the plans. In fact, I can't see now that we couldn't land Pace how it would even make sense to allow Taylor to go.
THo either one of them on the move would certainly tip our hand in the draft after you consider the possiblities, and the loss of Pace. (which also would explain why Parcells was adamant in his denials Taylor was on the move). I believe if Pace had signed Taylor was on the move and we were listening to offers tho not soliciting them. At this point I believe he stays in Miami unless we get an outrageous offer (more than just a number 1 pick)
As long as Ryan continues to distinguish himself (ie proday) as the clear cut number one guy, I think Parcells ends up trading that pick to either Kansas City, Atlanta, Baltimore, or possibly the Jets. I think there are some teams at the top that when the time comes might decide they have to get their franchise guy, and if somebody besides Atlanta decides they want a QB, Atlanta will be forced to trade to get him.
Number three is the perfect spot for us to move as well, because it ensures the fact that we either get Gholston or Howies boy, the two guys, i believe, Parcells has coveted all along
