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jeff bagwell retires.

just wanted to tip my hat to jeff bagwell. as an astro fan since 1979 ive never been prouder of an astros player. he's a world class guy. he deserves to be in the hall of fame. wish he would've got a ring though. maybe he can get one working in the front office for the astros. baseball needs more players like bags and biggio.
 
STEROIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He won't sniff the hall of fame!
 
MikeO said:
STEROIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He won't sniff the hall of fame!
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Bagwell and Biggio are the two best and classiest players the Houston franchise has ever encountered...I will skip school drive about 2 miles down the road (I have no license) and stand in front of Minute Maid OPark to handout a petition to get him in if he doesn't
 
23Ronnie23 said:
what do steroids have to do with bagwell???
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He took them!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Look at his body during his career. Look at the injuries.
 
MikeO said:
He took them!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Look at his body during his career. Look at the injuries.
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jeff's always been big what r u going to say that lance berkman takes steroids as well cuz that would be a lie...lance's hs is just down the road from my house and they have pics of him all over the school hes a big guy
 
texasfinsfight said:
jeff's always been big what r u going to say that lance berkman takes steroids as well cuz that would be a lie...lance's hs is just down the road from my house and they have pics of him all over the school hes a big guy
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:confused: no one is saying anything about berkman

and yes jeff did take steriods.
 
Bagwell gets in easy. WTF are you guys talking about? Theres some posts on here that are just laughable. First ballot no question hes in.
 
finfansince72 said:
Bagwell gets in easy. WTF are you guys talking about? Theres some posts on here that are just laughable. First ballot no question hes in.
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Agreed. Bagwell will get in probably 1st ballot too. Career .297 batting average, .408 OBP, 202 SB for a 1st baseman, not to mention his power numbers (which would be a lot better if he didn't play pretty much all his career in the Astrodome). Yeah he didn't hit 500 homers or 3,000 hits but he was one of the most feared and dominate hitters during his generation.

Whether or not he took steroids isn't really an issue because he was never caught or is proof he took them (I'm not saying he didn't). His numbers for his career are pretty damn consistent.

Also maybe it's just me being naive but a arthritic right shoulder is a cause/side effect from steriods?
 
Ray Finkle said:
Agreed. Bagwell will get in probably 1st ballot too. Career .297 batting average, .408 OBP, 202 SB for a 1st baseman, not to mention his power numbers (which would be a lot better if he didn't play pretty much all his career in the Astrodome). Yeah he didn't hit 500 homers or 3,000 hits but he was one of the most feared and dominate hitters during his generation.

Whether or not he took steroids isn't really an issue because he was never caught or is proof he took them (I'm not saying he didn't). His numbers for his career are pretty damn consistent.

Also maybe it's just me being naive but a arthritic right shoulder is a cause/side effect from steriods?
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No doubt he took steroids. I mean look at all the guys who we think took roids, they don't just fade because of diminished skills, they all break down. Bagwell is no different, he broke down just like Bonds is, just like Caminiti did, just like McGwire, just like Canseco, and just like a ton of other players whose career didn't fade, whose careers ended because of injuries!
 
Just because you were injured doesnt mean you took steroids, maybe all those years and years of stress on the body have something to do with it?

Anyway Im pretty sure a good number of players of our generation are on Steroids, and unless they get caught we cant keep them out of the HOF.
 
FinsNYanksFan13 said:
No doubt he took steroids. I mean look at all the guys who we think took roids, they don't just fade because of diminished skills, they all break down. Bagwell is no different, he broke down just like Bonds is, just like Caminiti did, just like McGwire, just like Canseco, and just like a ton of other players whose career didn't fade, whose careers ended because of injuries!
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You can't keep someone out of the Hall because of circumstantial nonsense. You have nothing to provide besides a weak assumption that after 14-15 years of playing baseball he had to retire due to injury, so that means hes on roids :rolleyes:. This is nonsense. If anything he could use steriods to extend a career ala Bonds. Bagwell has never been mentioned along with guys like Sosa, BigMac, Bonds, etc. Really this is some very weak rumour mongering on this board, its lowbrow. Bagwell always had power numbers, was consistant and has never been investigated, testified, or tested positive for steriods. Steriods will have ZERO, ZERO impact on the voting for Bagwell.
 
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