Jeff Ireland interview on 790 your opinion

[SnakeoilSeller]

Honestly - i think he did pretty well there.

he seemed to be willing to joke a little bit, and was as honest as he could be on most things. he also pretty much took the blame for pat white, even though parcells had laid the ground work for him to cop out of it.

the guys were really hammering him right off the bat with some negative stuff etc. and he took it in stride pretty much. He also was honest of flynn etc.

i think this interview was beneficial for ireland and the dolphins image overall. they should keep doing this. I also kind of like how he doesnt care about the "dolfan hate" quite frankly most fans dont know what goes on anyway, you have to let that roll off you.

Agree 100%! Quite honestly, I didn't think Ireland sounded egotistical at all. He answered difficult questions. Quite honestly, I thought the announcers sounded more like jerks than anything else. They came across like they wanted to rip him, they wanted him to throw Parcells under the bus. They wanted to rattle Ireland, frustrate him and attempted to sert him off. It did not work. If anything, I think he came across as professional and the announcers came across as idiots.

 

[DuderinoN703]

If you don't want the guy to be arrogant, what do you want him to be like? Kind? Sweet? Approachable near women?

 

[phintim]

Despite his utter lack of social skills atleast with Jeff Ireland making the picks I know it will produce better then we had before him.

I agree completly with your post and while not attempting to defend Ireland I keep pointing on so many post around here. I have been following the draft from back in the mid 1980 closely and Ireland has done a better job a picking consistently than any other GM in during that time. I have been through the Eric Kummerows, Eric Greens, Sammie Smiths, Yatil Greens, John Bosa and Rick Grafs with these Dolphins and this is much better. Not implying he could not improve but has anyone every consisdered that a littile bit of the issue could have been the coaching and developement of the the talent he drafted. Maybe Ireland is delivering the prime beef and the cook did not know how to prepare and cook it correctly!

 

[SkapePhin]

If you don't want the guy to be arrogant, what do you want him to be like? Kind? Sweet? Approachable near women?

They would blast him regardless. People just want a reason to hate the guy...

 

[SkapePhin]

I think he did fine. I can't believe people are faulting him for not divulging his plan. You want him to just lay out his draft strategy on a silver platter for everyone?

I enjoy the LeBatard show, but lets be honest, they had it out for this guy. They have not hid the fact that they hate Ireland and think he is a plague on the franchise. They were going at him hard, and in all honesty, I think he handled it about as well as he could. Heck, Stugotz is a Jets fan. He was probably trying to get Ireland to blow to further embarass the franchise.

 

[Finland]

I have never met a true leader with a big ego...I have met many that were "put in positions of leadership", but that didn't make them leaders....

Steven Jobs? I know you likely have not met him, but his ego was huge. But I think the point is good leaders allow the people they are leading to be the winners.

 

[HarryBagpipe]

He could say that in order to prepare for the draft he was tossing chicken bones and dice, crapping in a bucket and asking its advice and I could name the ten posters who would defend it as a solid move and make excuses for him.

He could lay an elaborate plan for the draft that seems extremely thought out and i could name the posters who would trash it. Its funny how closely the thought process of sports fans and fans of certain political figures resemble each other. There is no middle ground or independant thought. Every move must be defended and apologized for or every move must be trashed.

 

[TheWalrus]

Ireland did not get where he is today by pleasing people like you on Finheaven. He needs to be like he is to make it in this business, like him or not he is the Fins GM.

Where Ireland is is on the hot seat. And the reason he's there is because he's been an ******* who has made poor decisions that have led to fielding a poor product. THAT's why Dolphins fans hate him.

If "the way he is" continues to be aloof and incompetent, then eventually he'll be fired. Don't act as if these things are not related.

Here's an exercise for you, in case you're not grasping this: the three best GMs in football right now are Ted Thompson, Kevin Colbert and Ozzie Newsome. Show where they have acted as Ireland acts, or made decisions as Ireland does. Then try and tell me that the reason the fans of those team love those GMs isn't related to the fact that the act about as differently from Jeff Ireland as a GM can act.

 

[SuperMarksBros.]

He could say that in order to prepare for the draft he was tossing chicken bones and dice, crapping in a bucket and asking its advice and I could name the ten posters who would defend it as a solid move and make excuses for him.

He could lay an elaborate plan for the draft that seems extremely thought out and i could name the posters who would trash it. Its funny how closely the thought process of sports fans and fans of certain political figures resemble each other. There is no middle ground or independant thought. Every move must be defended and apologized for or every move must be trashed.

Very fair points no matter what anyone's opinion of Ireland is.

 

[SkapePhin]

Where Ireland is is on the hot seat. And the reason he's there is because he's been an ******* who has made poor decisions that have led to fielding a poor product. THAT's why Dolphins fans hate him.

If "the way he is" continues to be aloof and incompetent, then eventually he'll be fired. Don't act as if these things are not related.

Here's an exercise for you, in case you're not grasping this: the three best GMs in football right now are Ted Thompson, Kevin Colbert and Ozzie Newsome. Show where they have acted as Ireland acts, or made decisions as Ireland does. Then try and tell me that the reason the fans of those team love those GMs isn't related to the fact that the act about as differently from Jeff Ireland as a GM can act.

When that Favre fiasco happened originally, about half (possibly more) the fanbase absolutely hated Ted Thompson.

Check it out: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/FIRE-TED-THOMPSON/

I'm not saying Ireland is on Thompson's level, but that fact is, fans hate ANYONE who is in leadership as long as the team isn't going to the playoffs. He very well might be a prick, but so are many other GMs who have had success. AJ Smith, the GM of the Chargers is the biggest ahole on the planet and doesn't care if he comes across as one, yet he had a string of years where he was dubbed one of the best GMs out there. That perception has changed in recent years, and people on local radio here are vocal about getting AJ canned.

Its all about results. That being said, Ireland, like him or not, HAS been one of the better GMs (if not the best) we have had here since Jimmy Johnson. He took over a 1-15 team, and at least built a squad good enough to compete. The problem is, he is missing the most important piece that will bring it all together. If he hit on a QB, I guarantee fans here would be dubbing him a genius, even with the current roster exactly the same way as it is now other than QB.

 

[ONole1]

I have never met a true leader with a big ego...I have met many that were "put in positions of leadership", but that didn't make them leaders....

Do you think Marino was a good leader? He sure had an ego. What about Belichick? I wouldn't question his leadership, or his ego.

 

[TheWalrus]

When that Favre fiasco happened originally, about half (possibly more) the fanbase absolutely hated Ted Thompson.

Check it out: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/FIRE-TED-THOMPSON/

I'm not saying Ireland is on Thompson's level, but that fact is, fans hate ANYONE who is in leadership as long as the team isn't going to the playoffs. He very well might be a prick, but so are many other GMs who have had success. AJ Smith, the GM of the Chargers is the biggest ahole on the planet and doesn't care if he comes across as one, yet he had a string of years where he was dubbed one of the best GMs out there. That perception has changed in recent years, and people on local radio here are vocal about getting AJ canned.

Its all about results. That being said, Ireland, like him or not, HAS been one of the better GMs (if not the best) we have had here since Jimmy Johnson. He took over a 1-15 team, and at least built a squad good enough to compete. The problem is, he is missing the most important piece that will bring it all together. If he hit on a QB, I guarantee fans here would be dubbing him a genius, even with the current roster exactly the same way as it is now other than QB.

And you will notice that I said results and personality were linked. Not being a jackass buys you time when things don't go as well. I don't remember Ravens fans calling for Newsome's head when the Ravens had a few lean years. The reason Charger fans want AJ Smith gone is because of the natural human instinct to find those who match arrogance with incompetence revolting. But at least Smith has made several brilliant moves over the years. Ireland has made comparatively few.

The Favre thing is a special case. Any time a legend leaves, the people who think he can still play are going to be pissed off. But Thompson didn't shy away from it. He addressed the media. He addressed the fans. He didn't treat them as infantile *******s as this organization routinely does.

Ireland has been one of the better GMs we've had since Jimmy Johnson left, I agree. But this is sort of like saying that sleeping with a woman who has crabs is better than sleeping with a woman who has AIDS.

 

[SkapePhin]

And you will notice that I said results and personality were linked. Not being a jackass buys you time when things don't go as well. I don't remember Ravens fans calling for Newsome's head when the Ravens had a few lean years. The reason Charger fans want AJ Smith gone is because of the natural human instinct to find those who match arrogance with incompetence revolting. But at least Smith has made several brilliant moves over the years. Ireland has made comparatively few.

The Favre thing is a special case. Any time a legend leaves, the people who think he can still play are going to be pissed off. But Thompson didn't shy away from it. He addressed the media. He addressed the fans. He didn't treat them as infantile *******s as this organization routinely does.

Ireland has been one of the better GMs we've had since Jimmy Johnson left, I agree. But this is sort of like saying that sleeping with a woman who has crabs is better than sleeping with a woman who has AIDS.

Only you are missing the point that Ted Thompson comes off as an arrogant prick as well... Just look through that petition and you find countless fans saying the same thing. Ted Thompson only "bought time" by winning a Superbowl.



Check it out:
(from http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/FIRE-TED-THOMPSON/)

08:37, Jan 04, Mr. Ralph Orsini, CT
This guy is just plain terrible he has to big an ego it's all about him he blocks every idea that comes across his desk it's scary to say but it's like he is delibrate in decisions he makes to foil any possiblity for this team in the future it makes me sick.....remember that movie major league that owner who was really wanting the team to fail and wouldn't sign anyone and released players , and just made life miserable cause she really had other plans for the team to benefit her......remind you of anyone ....thats right ....TED THOMPSON

09:56, Dec 30, samuel wuethrich, WI
I think Ted Thompson is an idiot and I don't think he's the man that belongs in wisconsin. The man has no personality and seems to lack the leadership us wisconsin people deserve.

12:24, Dec 20, Gregg Jennings, WI
Ted should be killed, and dragged out of town behind a car

22:08, Dec 19, Mr. Michael Schwarten, NV
You distroyed our offensive line, couldn't pull the trigger and get Randy Moss, you got rid of Jon Ryan for no reason, and of course your name is on the paper to get rid of the legendary Brett Favre.......SHAME!

This one cracks me up, LMAO!:

07:47, Dec 19, Mr. jimmy DeStaffno, SC
We do not need to "build through the draft only.Look at the Dolphins it can be turned arouNd in one year. But not like Ted is doing. FIRE TED AND MIKE NOW!!!!!!! AND WHILE WE ARE AT KICK Mark to the curb as wel.

15:33, Dec 16, Mr. Isaiah Muenzberg, CO
Not only should Ted be kicked out but Mark Murphy too. How do you not stand up as the voice of the people (shareholders) you were chosen to represent. Ted Thompson, McCarthy, and Murphy have taken a quality, NFC championship team and turned them into a team that doesn't even make the playoffs. Thompson let his ego get in the way of the whole Favre thing in a selfish attempt to leave his own legacy. He passed over quality coaches like Mariucci for the worst offensive coordinator in the league as the head coach, wasted a draft pick on a DT that is always hurt instead of drafting Adrian Peterson, passed on picking up Randy Moss, forced out several Defensive Linemen, and above all got rid of the leader in Brett. Ted sure is leaving his legacy...unfortunately we, as the fans, are the ones who have to endure it.

20:54, Dec 14, Mr. Michael McCanney, NY
Ted Thompson is the worst thing to happen to the Green Bay Packers organization in recent history. He put his opinion before the well being of the team which caused a 13-3 team to drop to less than average. Fire Thompson and bring respect, and wins, back to the Packers!

12:16, Dec 06, Mr. Jay Kruchten, IL
Ted Thompson should be fired because of poor decision making and as well as letting his ego get in the way of what is best for the Green Bay Packer organization. He has shown repeatedly that he is making the Packers "his team." Well buddy, now it is "your team", missing the playoffs and lucky if they end with a winning record. And the Jets?--Superbowl maybe?

07:41, Dec 03, Mr. Brian hudson, WI
Ted is a complete moron. Gets rid of Ryan for Frost, do I need to say more. 1st round pick wasted on Jusin Harrel, do I need to say more, getting rid of veteran leadership in the name of Favre, who has been a winner his whole career, and trading him to another team. pack 5-7 Jets 8-4, need I say more. Ted you have ruined the packers for a long time. Mike Sherman may of not been a good GM, but he has won more games than your 30-30 record as a GM. You suck ted and you need to be as Donald trump says "YOUR FIRED"

14:50, Nov 27, Mike Kurtz, WI
I can't even stand to look at the guy! When they pan the camera to the stands he's always got that stupid look- like he crapped his pants or something. What an idiot! Frankly, I'm glad that Brett and the Jets are doing well, so that more people realize what a retarded decision Ted made. Fire him!!!!!!

 

[Jersey DolFan]

Agree 100%! Quite honestly, I didn't think Ireland sounded egotistical at all. He answered difficult questions. Quite honestly, I thought the announcers sounded more like jerks than anything else. They came across like they wanted to rip him, they wanted him to throw Parcells under the bus. They wanted to rattle Ireland, frustrate him and attempted to sert him off. It did not work. If anything, I think he came across as professional and the announcers came across as idiots.

agree as well - i heard the same things u did they were actually being a little bit of "jerks" but it seems to have gone ok anyway. They got off the phone saying how "not fun" that was or whatever - they are playing to the crowd it seems - nothing wrong with that but just an observation. also agree with your point on egos - TONS of great leaders have egos.


as for the guy who named the best GMS - would the colts have thought they had a pretty darn good GM until they were exposed last season?? My point is there is a TON that goes into a team getting results on the field. im not saying ireland is GREAT but i am saying the guy has been solid - and with a horrible miss at QB, which may or may not solely be his fault individually, as well as a head coach who had a good heart in the whole thing but just was not cut out for game day etc. it didnt pan out for irealnd so great in 3/4 years. I like the core hes put together and think he'll continue to build on it - hopefully this new staff at moore/gerrard then a developing young guy can help us attain more success going forward.

 

[TheWalrus]

Well, when you've got people signing a "Fire Ted Thompson" petition chances are the comments are going to be pretty negative. Doesn't mean their opinions are representative of the fan base as a whole. But I see what you're saying. Every fanbase has it's reactionary *******s. Sometimes they end up being right and sometimes they're wrong. The "logic" that goes into their point of view is almost always wrong, however.

Ultimately fans care most of all about results, but I don't see why results and good public relations have to be mutually exclusive. We've already seen that high profile free agents with options choose not sign here and then, either subtly or directly, call Jeff Ireland an *******? So it's not like these things can't hurt the team, too.