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Jermichael Finley re-signs with Packers, franchise tag for Flynn?

Why would a 2 year $15M deal be such a bargain for a TE??? Really?? I am sure his deal is mostly guaranteed. Again - for a TE??? That is serious money. Rogers made all their receiver look all world. $15M - 2 year for his age and experience. That is serious coin. He knows his stats will NOT be better anywhere else. 2 more years with that system and Rogers and he gets another big payday. I think he got a good chunk of money and is still able to hit FA with a new TV deal and a higher cap #. People shouldn't think his agent was doing the Pack a huge favor here. I think he made a smart contract - gets big money per year and a shot at a monster deal when things will really increase.

As for Flynn, you saw how Philbin followed orders and didn't raid the coaching staff. Not one coach. I am sure there has been dialogue about Flynn. No doubt in my mind about that. We'll see when FA hits how he pursues Flynn but i don't see the Pack sticking it to Philbin if he genuinely has interest there. I really am hoping he does because that means he believes he can be the franchise QB they need.

that money is a bargain cause when it comes to these football players they live for the guaranteed money...thats the money they know they will get whether you cut them or not...i think its fair to say that every bit of that money on that 2 year deal he signed is guaranteed loot but when you consider that had he signed say a 5 year $40 mil deal or even better probably in free agency given his youth and production to date hell he's 24 he would have exceeded that guaranteed money by every bit of $5-7 mil...and thats whether he gets hurt in year one or cut 2 years later of whatever the possibilities...these guys mostly sign long term contract extensions cause the longer you sign the more guaranteed money is in play

finley did the pack a solid...i'm betting had he hit free agency he would have signed for the highest paid te in football contract
 
A lot Packers fans and some Packers beat writers are talking about Flynn getting franchised. The price could be a first round pick.

The money would be too great. They would be paying him more than Rodgers I think, if not then pretty close. Green Bay couldn't possibly pay a back up that kind of money or take the chance so they can hope someone trades for him.
 
The money would be too great. They would be paying him more than Rodgers I think, if not then pretty close. Green Bay couldn't possibly pay a back up that kind of money or take the chance so they can hope someone trades for him.
If the Packers intend to keep him or can't find a trade partner they will be paying Flynn roughly $6 million more than Rodgers. Though they are likely going to try a tag and trade.
 
if i recall the new CBA states you can't franchise unless you have the intentions of resigning the player and 2) they won't tag him he has no leverage.
 
Franchise tag Flynn, making him one of the five highest paid Qb's. That will not happen, no way no how. The Packers would be paying him more than Rodgers. Even if they could trade him, no team would be willing to give up a first and pay Flynn that kind of money.
 
thats the part that bothers me right there...there's no doubt in my mind that right now whether its legal or not flynns agent has feelers out for his client and teams interest and also there's no doubt in my mind that there is a strong possibility the pack have had contact with some teams about compensation for the player...this stuff happens all the time...flynns agent will probably be at the combine searching for suitors and the pack will be looking also to see if they can work something out...2 1st round picks will never happen but if they can find someone to part with a 2nd lets say in a tag and trade scenario and incorporate that guaranteed $14 mil into the terms of the deal with the new team i think its still in play...

no doubt in my mind many of these potential free agents already have feelers out for interest and if not they will this weekend at the combine when they have a league wide
audience at their disposal

exactly, and there are plenty of suitors for his agent to talk to with us and Seahawks being on the top of the list which also includes Washington and Cleveland. With that said there still Manning out there for one of the teams and Cleveland is in a great spot to get RG3. I think what's clear is if he does get franchised than you can guarantee a trade is in the works for flynn because there's no way the Pack is paying him 12 million as a backup.
 
Franchise tag Flynn, making him one of the five highest paid Qb's. That will not happen, no way no how. The Packers would be paying him more than Rodgers. Even if they could trade him, no team would be willing to give up a first and pay Flynn that kind of money.

ohh really, no team will pay an unproven backup qb with limited starts and give up a high draft pick? Tell that to Arizona and Kevin Kolb.
 
The funny thing is I read about the no franchise tag thing on a player just to trade him on Pft. Maybe it was debunked but I read most of their posts so who knows.
 
this is just me talkin here but if you have plans on bringing in campbell you might as well just stick with matt moore...another guy everywhere he goes people look to upgrade him...the raiders liked what they saw from campbell so much prior to injury that they went out and traded 2 1st round picks for carson palmer...they know what everyone else in the league knows and thats campbell and matt moore aren't get you over the hump qbs...they're stop gaps
im not a campbell fan or anything and i agree with u, if he would be the upgrade specifically to matt moore then their is no point, but wasn't campbell hurt already, and that is why the raiders gave all of that up at the time? i dont remember 100 percent, but i think campbell had been hurt already.
 
ohh really, no team will pay an unproven backup qb with limited starts and give up a high draft pick? Tell that to Arizona and Kevin Kolb.

well it was a second round pick probably more equilvilant to a mid to late 1st rounder because they included Cromartie
 
if i recall the new CBA states you can't franchise unless you have the intentions of resigning the player and 2) they won't tag him he has no leverage.

1. I have read the new cba and nowhere in it even talks about the franchise tag so I do believe teams can still sign and trade
2. If packers feel strongly that either us or the Seahawks will do anything to get Flynn since both teams have intimate knowledge of him because of there GB ties I don't think it would be that far fetched for the packers to work at a deal with one of the teams and then franchise him. Yes it's against the rules but teams do this all the time we all know it.
 
im not a campbell fan or anything and i agree with u, if he would be the upgrade specifically to matt moore then their is no point, but wasn't campbell hurt already, and that is why the raiders gave all of that up at the time? i dont remember 100 percent, but i think campbell had been hurt already.

yeah he was hurt already but your missing the point...you don't pony up 2 1st round picks at the deadline if you feel like you have a legit qb still in his prime in house...not one who would recover from injury in time for the 2012 season...the raiders didn't like what they saw enough from campbell to wait on him...they moved on in a nanosecond...tells me that they viewed campbell as a stop gap...its not like that injury was a career ender or anything
 
I can not even begin to describe how much I dislike the franchise tag. Come on they can just slap that on a BACKUP QB and now we're supposed to give up our first rounder? Thats a top 10 pick. The only thing this helps is the packers and teams that are in the lower 10 in the draft, aka playoff teams. So now instead of getting a good shot at Flynn, we will have to make a huge commitment to him before we can even see him play. If we give up our first and a big contract for an unproven player it is near the same risk as a lets say Andrew luck. Or tim Couch... I just dont think its ethical to tag a player just for your own gain. This league is supposed to be fair, but this doesn't accomplish that at all. What if we give up our first next year for flynn. Flynn bombs, we suck and the packers end up with our #3 pick. Alright enough ranting, just tired of teams putting such huge prices on their unproven backup QB's that hardly ever succeed (Cassell, DA). This sucks.
 
Matt Flynn - QB - Packers
With Jermichael Finley locked up through 2013, Tom Silverstein of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel expects the Packers to use their franchise tag on free agent Matt Flynn.

It would be a highly aggressive and fairly risky maneuver, but the Packers can pull it off by staying $14.5 million under the salary cap. That's the franchise tag number for quarterbacks, and Green Bay must be there by March 13. The idea would be to get compensation for Flynn rather than letting him hit the unrestricted free agent market with nothing in return. GM Ted Thompson would have to feel comfortable that Flynn can generate enough interest to command a draft choice, and attract a team willing to sign him long term.


Source: Tom Silverstein on Twitter
Feb 22 - 9:06 PM
 
1. I have read the new cba and nowhere in it even talks about the franchise tag so I do believe teams can still sign and trade
2. If packers feel strongly that either us or the Seahawks will do anything to get Flynn since both teams have intimate knowledge of him because of there GB ties I don't think it would be that far fetched for the packers to work at a deal with one of the teams and then franchise him. Yes it's against the rules but teams do this all the time we all know it.

I am glad other posters read that too..But I just looked at the new CBA too and it says nothing...It was something that was def posted on PFT..It must have been debunked? But I know I read it there..
 
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