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Jets scale back Quinton Coples workload

nyjunc said:
you beat us by 2 pts, that's not an ass kicking and had we won we wouldn't have made the playoffs.

Locke: YES, when your team was in the race your D was horrible, out of the race they "stepped up". Our D was not very good either but our D has been a top D before and is expected will be one again. Not to mention you guys have a new DC and new scheme.
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The Jets D is expected to be better yet you try and pass opinions on expectations yet any expectations for the Dolphins you dismiss. You do the same thing with rookies that join the Jets. Doesn't work that way
 
nyjunc said:
and you didn't play a meaningful game from Oct through the end of the season.
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the other teams didn't play as hard because the Dolphins were out of contention? How nice of the jets to give up a playoff spot just for the Dolphins because they were out of it...
 
And we are getting off topic here, the jets are already reducing the role of their 1st round pick.
The "B" word is being whispered around camp... It's a glorious day!
 
nyjunc said:
and you didn't play a meaningful game from Oct through the end of the season.
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As compared to the 09 jest not playing a meaningful game to their opponents after game 13?

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rent this space said:
the other teams didn't play as hard because the Dolphins were out of contention? How nice of the jets to give up a playoff spot just for the Dolphins because they were out of it...
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Don't befuddled Baghdad Bob with logic.
 
Vaark said:
As compared to the 09 jest not playing a meaningful game to their opponents after game 13?

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Don't befuddled Baghdad Bob with logic.
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You mean the team that won 2 road playoff games and held a 2nd half lead in the title game?

Locke said:
You're so subjective in your analysis, it's ridiculous. Some might say that the Phins D was night and day better than the Jets' because despite starting the season out-of-shape and, frankly, horrible, they still ended the season with a lower PPG allowance that the team that was in the playoff hunt all the way until week 17. Come on man, at least try to be objective here. Despite spotting the Patriots 38, the Texans 23, and the Chargers 26 to start the season, they still ended up allowing fewer PPG than the vaunted Rex Ryan defense. You're going to sit here with a straight face and say that the Jets defense was still better last year? Seriously? Come on man...
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Some might say and some would be wrong. Miami played w/ zero pressure to win, when they did play w/ pressure to win they were an embarrassment. Our D wasn't very good either, this is not a battle of top Ds but at least our D helped us stayed in contention throughout the season.

Spotting when you were actually in the race then shutting down dead teams like ABuf and NYJ late in the year? that impresses you?

MadDog 88 said:
FACT: At kickoff, the Jets were in playoff contention. It was a game they had to win.
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FACT: if we won we don't make the playoffs

MadDog 88 said:
The Jets D is expected to be better yet you try and pass opinions on expectations yet any expectations for the Dolphins you dismiss. You do the same thing with rookies that join the Jets. Doesn't work that way
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I'm not sure what you are actually saying here.

Kinzua said:
And the Jests lost all the ones that they played. OOOPS!



QFT.
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I would say Buf lost all their meaningful games but they haven't played one since 2004- which they lost to Pitt backups at home.


The closest thing to a big game for Buf last year was our game in Nov in orchard Park and the Jets humiliated the Bills, you may not remember as you and your fellow fans disappeared from this board after that game.

rent this space said:
the other teams didn't play as hard because the Dolphins were out of contention? How nice of the jets to give up a playoff spot just for the Dolphins because they were out of it...
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Who said that other teams played hard or not? your team was out of the race, didn't have playoff pressure or any pressure to win games. When they did they stunk.

rent this space said:
And we are getting off topic here, the jets are already reducing the role of their 1st round pick.
The "B" word is being whispered around camp... It's a glorious day!
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Yes a week into acamp a rookie is a bust:rolleyes2:
 
13ktownguy said:
They've had pretty poor drafts since Mancini left. Is that a coincidence?
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Boom Boom Mancini?

'09:
Sanchez, Greene and Slauson. Franchise QB, starting RB and starting OL. Only had 3 picks.

'10:
Wilson, Ducasse, McKnight & Connor. Starting FB, nickel back, great return man and so far bust OL. mediocre in '10

'11Wilkerson, Ellis, Powell, Kerley, McElroy, McKnight. Mo was very good as a rookie, big thins are expected in year 2, Powell has had a great camp but let's see if it translates to games, kerley was good as a rookie but has had a poor camp, McElroy could be a good backup, McKnight won't make team. Still too early to evaluate but Wilkerson looks like he will be very good.


We haven't gotten a Revis or David Harris like we did in 2007 but to get those 2 in one draft is pretty special.
 
nyjunc said:
Boom Boom Mancini?

'09:
Sanchez, Greene and Slauson. Franchise QB, starting RB and starting OL. Only had 3 picks.

'10:
Wilson, Ducasse, McKnight & Connor. Starting FB, nickel back, great return man and so far bust OL. mediocre in '10

'11Wilkerson, Ellis, Powell, Kerley, McElroy, McKnight. Mo was very good as a rookie, big thins are expected in year 2, Powell has had a great camp but let's see if it translates to games, kerley was good as a rookie but has had a poor camp, McElroy could be a good backup, McKnight won't make team. Still too early to evaluate but Wilkerson looks like he will be very good.


We haven't gotten a Revis or David Harris like we did in 2007 but to get those 2 in one draft is pretty special.
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Thats quite an underwhelming list of players and whose this franchise QB you speak of? I must of missed that one.....lol
 
13ktownguy said:
Thats quite an underwhelming list of players and whose this franchise QB you speak of? I must of missed that one.....lol
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You can really only evaluate one of the draft classes post mangini and that is the '09 one, small class but hit on all 3 players. All 3 were key contributors on team that nearly made SB.
 
nyjunc said:
FACT: if we won we don't make the playoffs.
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The Jets had no clue about that during the game. As far as they were concerned, they had a very realistic shot at the playoffs if they got the win. They needed 3 teams to lose and 2 out of the 3 lost. The third team they needed to lose only won by 1 point. The Dolphins beat the Jets before any of those other games ended. Therefore, it no longer mattered how any of those other games turned out because Miami eliminated the Jets first.
 
The New Guy said:
The Jets had no clue about that during the game. As far as they were concerned, they had a very realistic shot at the playoffs if they got the win. They needed 3 teams to lose and 2 out of the 3 lost. The third team they needed to lose only won by 1 point. The Dolphins beat the Jets before any of those other games ended. Therefore, it no longer mattered how any of those other games turned out because Miami eliminated the Jets first.
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The team was done after blowing the Giant game, if we controlled our own destiny then I would agree w/ you but we didn't and the team didn't respond to needing 5 different teams to lose.
 
nyjunc said:
The team was done after blowing the Giant game, if we controlled our own destiny then I would agree w/ you but we didn't and the team didn't respond to needing 5 different teams to lose.
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Then the Jets were done in 2009 and several other years they made the playoffs when they needed help getting in. You are never done until you are done. They only needed 3 teams to lose (not 5) and all had a very good chance to lose. The fact that 2 out of 3 lost and the 3rd only won by 1 point shows that. The Jets needed a win to keep their chances alive, and they couldn't even do that. As far as they were concerned, they still had a chance and came out and played poorly, just like they had the prior 2 weeks when they did control their own destiny.
 
The New Guy said:
Then the Jets were done in 2009 and several other years they made the playoffs when they needed help getting in. You are never done until you are done. They only needed 3 teams to lose (not 5) and all had a very good chance to lose. The fact that 2 out of 3 lost and the 3rd only won by 1 point shows that. The Jets needed a win to keep their chances alive, and they couldn't even do that. As far as they were concerned, they still had a chance and came out and played poorly, just like they had the prior 2 weeks when they did control their own destiny.
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Didn't need help in 2009, it was a win and in scenario just like 2001, 2004 and 2006. The only year we needed help was 2002 where we needed EITHER Clevelnad to lose to Atlanta or Miami to lose to NE and the chances of that happening were very good.

I get that it made your season to think you knocked us out of the playoffs so if you want to believe that please do.
 
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