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Although, I can't keep up the good fight against so many of you. I thought I would feel happier if Ross was deposed of ownership, but seeing so many Fins fans want to defend him is starting to drag me down a bit. I don't want to keep arguing with everyone. We all love the Dolphins and just want them to win. And I can see that Ross must have a side that really wants this team to win as evidence is beginning to show, unfortunately it will be the evidence that instigates a federal probe and probably brings league-wide pressure for him to sell the team...
 
Did he really use "the audacity of hope" as a response to the question "why did you proceed with the Giants interview if you knew it was a sham?" ... Wow. Just wow.

Barack, your thoughts?

What a disgrace. The moment he said that I knew he was trying to appeal to emotion and copying Barack Obamas playbook.


Exactly... so if Flores accepted the money, is he not guilty of compliance?
Unless he was working with the FBI hasn't he implicated himself!

Because this is a lawsuit you have to pay very close attention to the words used. Flores says he was "offered 100k" he doesn't say "paid 100k"....so this implies that he turned it down. There is no way the lawyers would have set him up like that anyway. Therefore...there is no objective/hard evidence.

The only thing he has is a witness who "heard the offer." But the defense lawyers will **** on this.

For example: If you change just 1 word in a statement the meaning can COMPLETELY change. How can this individual be so sure that he heard PRECISELY what they're claiming? Maybe he misheard? Was he 2 feet away from them or 10-20 feet? This matters. And don't forget that its been 3 WHOLE YEARS...did this person run home and write it down verbatim with the time/date on a piece of paper? If not...can anyone expect his memory to be PRECISE over such a time period?

This will not hold up in court to support their case. They need something "hard," (e.g. on paper or by audio recording)...and I sincerely doubt they have either.

So Ross and Grier are in the clear.
 
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I’m strongly opposed to a lottery draft system. The NFL is already corrupt as can be and it wouldn’t be surprising to see franchises like the Giants and Jets magically hit the #1 pick.
 
Look, I'm willing to roast Ross too, after its all been proven

Why didnt he release those texts too, along with the others????

That's a solid question. Maybe those messages from Grier aren't as damning as the ones from BB. It's easy for context to be missing in txts, so I can imagine it's an intricate web they're going to try to piece together. Could be they never manage to convey that context, in which case they will lack the evidence.

I'm no longer sure how strongly I want Ross gone. I just wish the guy would get right for once. I really miss making Dolphins football a part of my weekly routine but refuse to pay to watch this product....
 
What a disgrace. The moment he said that I knew he was trying to appeal to emotion and copying Barack Obamas playbook.




Because this is a legal suit you have to pay very close attention to the words used. Flores says "offered 100k" he doesn't say "paid 100k"....so this implies he turned it down. Therefore there is no evidence. The only thing he has is a supposed witness who "heard the offer." But the defense lawyers will **** on that.

As much as we want Ross/Grier gone I don't think this ends up forcing either of them out the door.
Sorry, even the offer of the payment is damning...the real question is whether Flores has something in writing or text - if it's entirely verbal Ross's lawyers should be able to get around it. Text messages would be damning tho
 
Witnesses count as a form of evidence in a trial...


Dude, that pile of **** heresay means nothing until it comes out
I can’t believe how gullible people are until evidence is actually produced
Hahaha keep getting your research from twitter, know yourself out
Laughable this new generation and how they get their news
 

Although, I can't keep up the good fight against so many of you. I thought I would feel happier if Ross was deposed of ownership, but seeing so many Fins fans want to defend him is starting to drag me down a bit. I don't want to keep arguing with everyone. We all love the Dolphins and just want them to win. And I can see that Ross must have a side that really wants this team to win as evidence is beginning to show, unfortunately it will be the evidence that instigates a federal probe and probably brings league-wide pressure for him to sell the team...
If you don’t wanna keep arguing with anyone then stop your dumb witch-hunt in trying to depose Ross
There will be an investigation, so wait until actual evidence is produce
Right now all you’re really doing is talking out of your ass
Look, you don’t like Ross, that’s fine, you along with others. But you condemn someone without hard factual evidence
Jesus Christ!
 
Dude, that pile of **** heresay means nothing until it comes out
I can’t believe how gullible people are until evidence is actually produced
Hahaha keep getting your research from twitter, know yourself out
Laughable this new generation and how they get their news
Like I said, until or unless this goes to trial where evidence is actually presented, there will be a side that continues to claim there is no evidence. Without a trial, there's no way for us to corroborate whether this dude's supposed witness is real, whether there are saved messages, whether those messages are clear enough as evidence, and so on and so forth.

But you can keep right on believing the whole thing is 100% bullshit. You'll be among a minority.
 
Ross is making our team a laughing stock and more of an embarrassment in the eyes of anybody that doesn't support our team. That's quite an accomplishment with the track record of the team under his ownership. Either way the truth needs to come out ASAP for the fans. This is beyond car crash.


Although, I can't keep up the good fight against so many of you. I thought I would feel happier if Ross was deposed of ownership, but seeing so many Fins fans want to defend him is starting to drag me down a bit. I don't want to keep arguing with everyone. We all love the Dolphins and just want them to win. And I can see that Ross must have a side that really wants this team to win as evidence is beginning to show, unfortunately it will be the evidence that instigates a federal probe and probably brings league-wide pressure for him to sell the team...

If you want to really fault Ross for something, it was getting into bed with a nutjob like Flores in the first place.
 
If you don’t wanna keep arguing with anyone then stop your dumb witch-hunt in trying to depose Ross
There will be an investigation, so wait until actual evidence is produce
Right now all you’re really doing is talking out of your ***
Look, you don’t like Ross, that’s fine, you along with others. But you condemn someone without hard factual evidence
Jesus Christ!
You're right, I'll stop.

I've been really sore at Ross over Jim Harbaugh. I need a punching bag and a Stephen Ross photo to tape to it.
 
We already have a million threads on this already, this is the Harbaugh conversation stay on track.
 
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Yesterday it was a done deal. Today its different. Mcdaniels interview pushed to Friday. Ross spending money 100K at a time still
 
Like I said, until or unless this goes to trial where evidence is actually presented, there will be a side that continues to claim there is no evidence. Without a trial, there's no way for us to corroborate whether this dude's supposed witness is real, whether there are saved messages, whether those messages are clear enough as evidence, and so on and so forth.

But you can keep right on believing the whole thing is 100% bullshit. You'll be among a minority.
I don’t know what to believe, there is no evidence and at this point heresay
So I’m not leading in any direction except that Ross is innocent until proven otherwise
You on the other hand have made a decision that he’s guilty based on words from a disgruntled ex employee
Kinda sad that you actually want this to be true so you can get rid of him
Me, I don’t want the owner of my team to be guilty of this for the sake of him forfeiting the Fins
I’d rather him sell on other terms avoid this **** show
 
I’m strongly opposed to a lottery draft system. The NFL is already corrupt as can be and it wouldn’t be surprising to see franchises like the Giants and Jets magically hit the #1 pick.
I hadn't thought of that. Must be a way to make it absolutely fair.
 
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