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Jimmy Johnson blasts Dolphins on Radio

All of these post about the picks that we gave up got me curious - here is what I determined:

In 2002, we gave up our #1 (25th) and we swapped our #4 with New Orleans.

New Orleans took Charles Grant with our 1st pick and they grabbed Keyuo Craver with the 4th that we swapped. We took Rand McMichael with their 4th.

In 2003, New Orleans had our #1 (18th) that they combined with their own pick (17th) and traded up to the 6th pick to get Johnathan Sullivan.

Here are the links to their (the players selected by New Orleans) NFL career statistics:

Charles Grant

Keyuo Craver

Johnathan Sullivan

We got RW and RM (stats) - for these three guys! Even though RW has retired, we still got the better deal!
 
BigFinFan said:
All of these post about the picks that we gave up got me curious - here is what I determined:

In 2002, we gave up our #1 (25th) and we swapped our #4 with New Orleans.

New Orleans took Charles Grant with our 1st pick and they grabbed Keyuo Craver with the 4th that we swapped. We took Rand McMichael with their 4th.

In 2003, New Orleans had our #1 (18th) that they combined with their own pick (17th) and traded up to the 6th pick to get Johnathan Sullivan.

Here are the links to their (the players selected by New Orleans) NFL career statistics:

Charles Grant

Keyuo Craver

Johnathan Sullivan

We got RW and RM (stats) - for these three guys! Even though RW has retired, we still got the better deal!
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That's why I am surprised JJ would be so critical. He's the one who said you can burn a whole draft for one pro bowler and still be oK. Though we didn't win enough with Ricky, that wasn't his fault. We still have MacMichael. All this second guessing with 20-20 hindsight is just a waste of time. It all depends on whether the picks work out or not and there's no way to know that for sure until the future. JJ admitts this when he says he can't know if the Feeley Gordon trades are good or not. Its too soon. So why trash your friends with 20-20 hindsight.
 
I agreein some points with you...

finjim said:
how about a 2nd rounder for JJ Johnson, a third rounder for Abdul Jabbar ? Any pick at all for Cecil "see my pee pee" Collins ??
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Well I agree with you in some of your points, he never draft a good RB, but he draft a few players that still they are the base of the team: Zach, Taylor, Madison, Konrad....

I think that in his tiem he must draft a good backup for Dan, thet he could play well when Marrino finish his carrer....
 
He also Drafted Pat Surtain.

Pat, Sam, JT and Zach, all of which weren't in the first round. He is the reason we are keeping these games close, those have been our key players for how long?
 
citripia said:
Well I agree with you in some of your points, he never draft a good RB, but he draft a few players that still they are the base of the team: Zach, Taylor, Madison, Konrad....

I think that in his tiem he must draft a good backup for Dan, thet he could play well when Marrino finish his carrer....
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that was his biggest mistake....nevermind that he couldn't get us a RB or any o-linemen.....You would think he would have been smart enough to at least draft a young QB knowing Danny was on his last legs but, No.

That decision led to Jay Fiedler. :cry:
 
ltfinfan said:
well he needs to criticize himself he's the one that brought dave here and pretty much just handed him the job
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Yes, I agree, funny how the article says JJ retired. If I recalled correctly he also quit on the team a day after the Jaguar debacle. At least he did better with his non-coaching time than RW.
 
agree with you

Phinsdude said:
He also Drafted Pat Surtain.

Pat, Sam, JT and Zach, all of which weren't in the first round. He is the reason we are keeping these games close, those have been our key players for how long?
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I agree with you, I am not saying that all his picks drafts was good (he have some horribale), but he find for us especial players, like you said the keys of the the team.... and if you remember when JJ came, the offense had the power but we didn´t have defense, in that time the team need despely a good defense to help Dan (an not have a lost Miami 27 vs (other) 35) and also need a good Rb but all his drafts pick for RB wasn´t goood.....

We have to put the things on a balance, he made a very good defense but he can give very good players on the offense

Also I have a question I don´t remeber Who draft OJ Mac.... , was Shual or JJ?
 
IMO JJs biggest mistake was not paying much attention to the OL something we have not improved on since.It was always an afterthought.He was of the opinion that you can get good OL in the later rounds of the draft and it wasnt neccesary to spend big money on OL in FA.

You see where we are at now.What do you think?
 
I'll never understand how that jerk got of the hook for doing what he did to us. Who is that a-hole kidding. He came in here promising us the world-then gave us Jeriss Mcfail, Kevin Gogan, Yatil, Avery, a 62-7 discraceful defeat and wanny and then ran to his f'n boat in the Keys. He did give us some good d players but left us w/ a lot of baggage.
IMO, he's got balls to live in FLorida after what he left us-he should jus :yell: t shut his redneck mouth
 
Who cares what JJ thinks. What the hell did he ever do with the Dolphins. I love how this blow hard has all the answers now that he got his fat but out of coaching. He was a jerk before he came to Miami. He came to Miami and treated Marino like crap. He always had someone else to blame for his failures. He left and bragged how great a coach Wanny was going to be. I put no stock into anything this loud mouth has to say. I did not like him as the Canes coach, hated as the Cowboys coach and despised him as the Dolphins coach.
 
afiorentino said:
Who cares what JJ thinks. What the hell did he ever do with the Dolphins. I love how this blow hard has all the answers now that he got his fat but out of coaching. He was a jerk before he came to Miami. He came to Miami and treated Marino like crap. He always had someone else to blame for his failures. He left and bragged how great a coach Wanny was going to be. I put no stock into anything this loud mouth has to say. I did not like him as the Canes coach, hated as the Cowboys coach and despised him as the Dolphins coach.
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Amen! I wish he would take Wanny fishing in the Bermuda Triangle-permanently. :lol:
 
BLITZKRIEG said:
Jimmy Johnson is a loser. No other way to slice it....
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He has Super Bowl rings...we do not...

BLITZKRIEG said:
He's one of the main reasons why we're going through alot this garbage right now too. His days as HC in Miami were spent working on building his defense, while completely ignoring the offense. He did absolutely nothing for us offensively during his four years here........
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When Jimmy arrived in Miami the Dolphins were in cap HELL. We overpaid for such free agent gems as Eric Green, Gene Atkins, Steve Emtman, Gary Clark ect. for one final run at a Super Bowl before Don Shula retired. This team was had probably the slowest defense in football when Jimmy arrived and they were old.

It was'nt his fault they could not hold onto the only player worth keeping (Troy Vincent), they had no cap flexability. A man can only build so much at a time. Jimmy thought that if he stuck a good defense out there maybe Dan could carry the offense.

He did'nt do a lot for the offense while he was here but, he put together the pieces for a pretty good defense quickly.

BLITZKRIEG said:
He made horrible personel decisions too. All the way from top to bottom. The OC's under Jimmy were a joke. The list of loser RB's he drafted is long and ugly, and the list of loser WR's he took chances on is laughable....
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Well, the offensive coodinators were ugly but, he kept Gary Stevens because Marino knew the offense (a mistake he admits to today). Yes, there were some bad RB choices but, he only had 4 years...Shula could'nt find a runner for 15 years...or a defense for that matter.

BLITZKRIEG said:
Remember when Jimmy had all of those RB's in camp a few years back??? We were desperate for a running game that year, and the one guy he decides to let go {RB T. Wheatley}, ends up having a huge season in Oakland. Instead of holding onto Wheatley, who he never even gave a real chance, he ends up keeping guys like Jabbar / Johnson / and Collins. Great call Jimmy!!!
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Everyone in football could have had Wheatley. Wheatley had 936 yards that year on 3.9 yards a carry....if that is a "huge" season then Lamar Gordon is on pace for a Hall of Fame year...

BLITZKRIEG said:
Oh, and remember that great draft we had where he passed on WR R. Moss???.... :huh:
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20 other teams passed on Moss...with good reason. He was a headcase, there were drug rumours....if there were not issues with Moss coming into that draft he would have gone top 5 and the Phins would not have been able to pass on him. Jimmy got Pat Surtain, Kenny Mixon and Lorenzo Bromell that draft anyway...

BLITZKRIEG said:
Or how about when he traded away WR I. Fryar to Philly for dinosaur WR F. Barnett???
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Barnett was younger. It was'nt a trade, they were both free agents. At the time Barnett was actually a highly thought of player and Fryar was getting a little old. Barnett got hurt.

BLITZKRIEG said:
As far as I'm concerned, Dave has done twice the job of ballancing out this roster than Jimmy EVER did. Jimmy is a cry baby, and a loser. He's also one of the most overrated HC's in NFL history IMO. He needs to move on with his life and stay out of the Phinz business. He's no longer involved with anything within the Miami Dolphins organization, so he should just keep quiet....
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Jimmy is PAID to have opinions...it is his job. Should he talk about 31 teams and not about ours? Dave is working with Jimmy's defense....and wasting them...

What's overrated about Jimmy? His rings? His results? His draft record?
 
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