Joe Philbin

[DKphin]

I have a question. Does anyone think that if we just had the OC and DC and no HC, that this team would be any the worse for it?
I find no reason that Joe should be part of this organization in the future. Much like Dumbstadt, this team wins because of the talent, we do have talent, and not because of the HC.

 

[Ilovemyfins4eva]

at the end of the day, we r going to win because of players, not coaches.

how many times have we changed coaches, be it head coaches, defensive or offensive coordinators in the past 10 years, and its the same thing.

if we r going to win, our players r going to be the reason. dont get me wrong, having a coach who the players respect and like playing for is very important, but at the end of the day, philbin is not throwing the football, catching the football, making tackles, etc.



that being said, i dont care either way for philbin, i dont think our teams performance would suffer without him.

 

[SkapePhin]

I don't have confidence in Joe. I've seen too many flubs and evidence that he simply isn't cut out for the leadership position of NFL HC.

That being said, he can win me over with a playoff VICTORY. If he can accomplish something that we haven't seen around here in more than a decade, I'd go so far to give him an extension. (This coming from one of the most outspoken Philbin detractors.)

 

[Sherif]

Joe does some things good and others he's a complete rookie. TO's and clock management the latter. Challenges, the former. Scheming and using the talent he has which I think is the most important head coaching job, I don't have confidence.

 

[artdnj]

My biggest concern involves motivation or should I say lack of. Next is game planning, I hope he's a quick learner. If we come out of bye and lay an egg he's accountable.

 

[doughbraz54]

 

[Finland]

I have a question. Does anyone think that if we just had the OC and DC and no HC, that this team would be any the worse for it?
I find no reason that Joe should be part of this organization in the future. Much like Dumbstadt, this team wins because of the talent, we do have talent, and not because of the HC.

A Head Coach does a lot. Going without one is only a short term situation. Also if the team wins because of the talent, then it is the same reason when they lose.

 

[Ilovemyfins4eva]

A Head Coach does a lot. Going without one is only a short term situation. Also if the team wins because of the talent, then it is the same reason when they lose.[/QUOTE]

correct.

as u said, coaches do a lot, but its the players who are winning/ losing games.

 

[FinaticalFinfan]

at the end of the day, we r going to win because of players, not coaches.

how many times have we changed coaches, be it head coaches, defensive or offensive coordinators in the past 10 years, and its the same thing.

if we r going to win, our players r going to be the reason. dont get me wrong, having a coach who the players respect and like playing for is very important, but at the end of the day, philbin is not throwing the football, catching the football, making tackles, etc.



that being said, i dont care either way for philbin, i dont think our teams performance would suffer without him.

I disagree...coaches ARE very important and all help determine the how much success a team will have over the course of a season. Sure, the players are out there on the field and they have to make the plays on game day. But, coaches put the schemes together, decide who is playing when and where, and that's just on game day. Throughout the year, the OL coach, strength coach, DB coach etc can have huge impacts that a lot of the time does not get noticed or appreciated. As far as Philbin goes, I am still on the fence with one foot on the ground on the side of him not being the man. We shall see.

 

[Ilovemyfins4eva]

I disagree...coaches ARE very important and all help determine the how much success a team will have over the course of a season. Sure, the players are out there on the field and they have to make the plays on game day. But, coaches put the schemes together, decide who is playing when and where, and that's just on game day. Throughout the year, the OL coach, strength coach, DB coach etc can have huge impacts that a lot of the time does not get noticed or appreciated. As far as Philbin goes, I am still on the fence with one foot on the ground on the side of him not being the man. We shall see.

i never said coaches r not important, i said i believe we will win at the end of the day based on how our players perform.

coaching is deff important, but i think sometimes it is used as a scapegoat.

when we r winning, we r always, and i believe rightfully so talking about what players performed well to contribute to those wins. i only feel its fair the other way around as well in losses.

i mean lets be real here. for example, i can use our team and the raiders.

2 organizations that used to be good on a consistent basis. suddenly, over the past decade, these 2 teams have gone through coaches like ppl go through toilet paper. personally, and we can agree to disagree, although i am not saying all those coaches were a bunch of don shulas , jon maddens, tom landrys, vince lombardis, etc, i also do not think all those coaches were all coincidentally trash, but more so the talent on those teams have been lacking for a while.

coaches sometimes get too much credit, but also plenty of times get too much blame.

also, i dont know what it is, maybe its just a coincidence as well, but look at belichecks career.

he was a nobody as a headcoach on the browns, then goes to the pats, and he is on the hot seat, and all the sudden, bang, this guy named tom brady comes along and all of the sudden for the past decade, he has been mentioned amongst the likes of the shulas, the landrys, the lombardis, the walshes, etc, as the greatest of all time.

i wonder if he stays past the brady regime, because i want to see what happens without brady for a 3-4 year period what he can do.

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

The poll question is, "Do you have confidence in Joe Philbin as the HC?"

Well, given that specific wording, I must answer 'no.' I am not confident in Joe. I will certainly still support him as long as he is the Dolphins head coach, but I can't say I have confidence in him.

 

[truedolfan57]

I'm confident in Joe. I'm confident that he's trying his best, with the lack of experience as a HC. I think he's learning a lot as a HC, and confident that he can lead a winning football team.

 

[The Goat]

I'm not confident in him as anything more than being Voldemort's stunt double.

 

[roy_miami]

We'll see. The process is going slower that even he would like I'm sure but we're still on the right track. Ireland certainly did him no favors, except maybe leaving Hickey with a good amount of cap space. His vision is so clear to me I feel like I'm mind melded with him, basically what he wants our team to be is the Cincinnati Bengals, a team that is very good defensively and very explosive offensively, and when both the offense and defense work in unison games get blown up. I predicted we'd see a few blowout victories this season, I guess you could say that's already happened. I predicted Tannehill would bust out and have some big time stats, that hasn't happened yet but right now the team is 11th in offensive yards which hasn't happened since Marino was a Dolphin. And the overall defense is ranked 7th in DVOA which is a pretty big improvement. In fact:

2013:
Pass offense: 20
Rush offense: 18
Pass defense: 12
Rush defense: 29

2014
Pass offense: 23
Rush offense: 9
Pass defense: 11
Rush defense: 9

As you can see we've improved everywhere except pass offense which has regressed a bit despite putting a lot of resources into that area. Will it take a big jump as Tannehill gets better used to the new offense? We'll see. But that will be the difference between winning the division or not as far as I'm concerned.

The team is being built differently than I ever remember and I think Philbin is the one stressing we load up at the skill position spots. If him and Hickey lasts we'll stop being a free agent heavy team and truly become a team that builds through the draft. I also don't know if anybody has ever just went ahead and built a team suited for an elite QB and thrown a rookie QB into the deep end like we have. A lot of people have an issue with this approach but if it works, and if Tannehill breaks out sooner than later we could be poised to make a run immediately.

And finally, I am a bit of an expert on game theory, and Philbin impresses me quite a bit in this regard, he has made one or two game management mistakes but what I see is he's right in that aggression "Goldilocks zone" for the most part where you need to be as aggressive as you possibly can without crossing over into recklessness. And I see a lot of innovation, innovation is a sign of genius. Bill Belichick is innovative. Chip Kelly is innovative. So is Joe Philbin. As far as not being a "leader of men" he certainly doesn't appear like one but the man has been a football coach his entire life, I'd like to think he must have one or two "alpha" qualities in him.

So not perfect. Probably more of a strategic genius than a great motivator. But good enough.

 

[xXwarXx]

Not a person here has a clue what philbin does or doesn't do within this organization.

And the coaches on the roster that you guys do seem to like, are guys HE hired.