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Tyrell Johnson gave a bit of a sneak peek of how the new Dolphins defense will be constructed.“That was the thing that kinda helped me sign here, that I was most excited about,” Johnson said. “They said they were going to base it more out of quarters and just a mix of things, mix it up real well and be very balanced.”Rejoining a defense that emphasizes more man coverage appealed to Johnson, who was forced to adjust when he was drafted by Minnesota.“That excited me because that’s all I ran at Arkansas St. was quarters and man,” Johnson said. ”We didn’t really run much (cover) two, but with the Vikings that’s all we ran. It’s more of a Tampa 2 team.”The installation of a quarters defense would signal a bit of a tactical change for the Dolphins defense. It divides up the field into four segments and gives each defensive back a portion of the field to cover. By keeping linebackers in tight, it means the defensive backs, Johnson included, will have more responsibility to stick with a team’s opposing receiver. http://thefinsiders.com/blog/2012/johnson-dishes-on-new-dolphins-defense
 
BAMAPHIN 22 said:
Tyrell Johnson gave a bit of a sneak peek of how the new Dolphins defense will be constructed.“That was the thing that kinda helped me sign here, that I was most excited about,” Johnson said. “They said they were going to base it more out of quarters and just a mix of things, mix it up real well and be very balanced.”Rejoining a defense that emphasizes more man coverage appealed to Johnson, who was forced to adjust when he was drafted by Minnesota.“That excited me because that’s all I ran at Arkansas St. was quarters and man,” Johnson said. ”We didn’t really run much (cover) two, but with the Vikings that’s all we ran. It’s more of a Tampa 2 team.”The installation of a quarters defense would signal a bit of a tactical change for the Dolphins defense. It divides up the field into four segments and gives each defensive back a portion of the field to cover. By keeping linebackers in tight, it means the defensive backs, Johnson included, will have more responsibility to stick with a team’s opposing receiver. http://thefinsiders.com/blog/2012/johnson-dishes-on-new-dolphins-defense
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well I hope they can work with Sean Smith
 
I hope Coyle can give us a fearsome secondary. You need one when you play Brady 2x a year.
 
Paul Pasqualoni's defense used a lot of quarters coverage, too. It requires your safeties to be good run defenders and smart players, since they're looking for run fits and playing closer to the line of scrimmage than they usually would (they also play more man coverage than normal). Yeremiah Bell excelled in that defense, though the good things he did were overshadowed by the terrible things Gibril Wilson did.

Quarters is very vulnerable in the short outside passing game, though, which makes it a bad matchup against the Pats and Bills. Though the fact that defenses that play quarters don't shift and react as much to offensive movement as other defenses will help against teams playing hurry up all game ala opening night against the Patriots last year.
 
TheWalrus said:
Paul Pasqualoni's defense used a lot of quarters coverage, too. It requires your safeties to be good run defenders and smart players, since they're looking for run fits and playing closer to the line of scrimmage than they usually would (they also play more man coverage than normal). Yeremiah Bell excelled in that defense, though the good things he did were overshadowed by the terrible things Gibril Wilson did.

Quarters is very vulnerable in the short outside passing game, though, which makes it a bad matchup against the Pats and Bills. Though the fact that defenses that play quarters don't shift and react as much to offensive movement as other defenses will help against teams playing hurry up all game ala opening night against the Patriots last year.
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Also vulnerable to TEs streaking down the field with Gibril in tow...
 
TheWalrus said:
Paul Pasqualoni's defense used a lot of quarters coverage, too. It requires your safeties to be good run defenders and smart players, since they're looking for run fits and playing closer to the line of scrimmage than they usually would (they also play more man coverage than normal). Yeremiah Bell excelled in that defense, though the good things he did were overshadowed by the terrible things Gibril Wilson did.

Quarters is very vulnerable in the short outside passing game, though, which makes it a bad matchup against the Pats and Bills. Though the fact that defenses that play quarters don't shift and react as much to offensive movement as other defenses will help against teams playing hurry up all game ala opening night against the Patriots last year.
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the problem with Pasqualoni's D was that it was very very vanilla. Randy Starks had his best year in Paul's D. I can't remember how many times a few seasons ago, I saw Pasqualoni call a good first half D, but then drop everybody back into coverage. He rarely blitzed and that was an issue. What was also an issue is we had two safeties that would rather play close to the line. Wonder why Reggie Nelson excelled in Cincy? He was allowed to just rove as a center fielder. Cincy really rotated secondary players, but they always had atleast one guy who roved in the back..

But yeah if we are doing a quarter defense a lot, you need to have guys that react quickly.
 
ChambersWI said:
the problem with Pasqualoni's D was that it was very very vanilla. Randy Starks had his best year in Paul's D. I can't remember how many times a few seasons ago, I saw Pasqualoni call a good first half D, but then drop everybody back into coverage. He rarely blitzed and that was an issue. What was also an issue is we had two safeties that would rather play close to the line. Wonder why Reggie Nelson excelled in Cincy? He was allowed to just rove as a center fielder. Cincy really rotated secondary players, but they always had atleast one guy who roved in the back..

But yeah if we are doing a quarter defense a lot, you need to have guys that react quickly.
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Who, in your opinion, is our best "rover?"
 
oasis said:
Who, in your opinion, is our best "rover?"
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Probably Clemmons, who did a decent job 2 seasons ago at FS. All you need is somebody who can stay disciplined and read the game well. Reggie Nelson was a bust in Jacksonville because he had more assignments, and that's not really his game. Hell I heard a few Jet fans saying Nelson would have been an awful signing for them because they don't play with a Rover safety.
 
We ran a lot of Quarters with Pasqualoni like TheWalrus said.

I remember against Arizona in 2008, Boldin burned us for a long TD to start the game.

He ran a seam route from the slot and we were in Quarters coverage.

It's really important your Safeties can cover in Quarters.
 
ChambersWI said:
Probably Clemmons, who did a decent job 2 seasons ago at FS. All you need is somebody who can stay disciplined and read the game well. Reggie Nelson was a bust in Jacksonville because he had more assignments, and that's not really his game. Hell I heard a few Jet fans saying Nelson would have been an awful signing for them because they don't play with a Rover safety.
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An added bonus is if the rover can catch.  Our boys in the secondary need a lot of JUGS time...
 
ChambersWI said:
the problem with Pasqualoni's D was that it was very very vanilla. Randy Starks had his best year in Paul's D. I can't remember how many times a few seasons ago, I saw Pasqualoni call a good first half D, but then drop everybody back into coverage. He rarely blitzed and that was an issue. What was also an issue is we had two safeties that would rather play close to the line. Wonder why Reggie Nelson excelled in Cincy? He was allowed to just rove as a center fielder. Cincy really rotated secondary players, but they always had atleast one guy who roved in the back..

But yeah if we are doing a quarter defense a lot, you need to have guys that react quickly.
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Pasqualoni couldn't make adjustments, period. Sean Smith said in an interview than when Pasqualoni was the DC, if an offense sent anyone in motion, the coverage call was automatically changed to man to man. Every. Time. This is monumentally easy to take advantage of if you know it's coming, especially if your inside linebackers are as poor in coverage as Akin Ayodele and Channing Crowder. It was a feeding frenzy.

All too often fans blame poor performances on coordinators because they don't want to believe the players on their team are bad. But in Pasqualoni's case the coaching really was to blame for a lot of what went on.

All I'm saying is that if we're going to be running a lot of quarters coverage this year, the X's and O's is probably going to look more like the Pasqualoni defense than Cincy's defense under Coyle. It's not some kind of inherently flawed concept or anything. But that's what it will look like. Reshad Jones in particular will probably thrive in it. And it will help hide the fact that we don't have a true FS.
 
Coyle is suppose to be a pretty damn good secondary coach/guru. The players in the Cincy secondary had some pretty good success with the guy. He made Gabril Wilson look like he belonged in the NFL for heavens sake...lol. Hope he pans out, b/c in a passing league a DC who is a great secondary coach is ideal.
 
foozool13 said:
Coyle is suppose to be a pretty damn good secondary coach/guru. The players in the Cincy secondary had some pretty good success with the guy. He made Gabril Wilson look like he belonged in the NFL for heavens sake...lol. Hope he pans out, b/c in a passing league a HC who is a great secondary coach is ideal.
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There's always a downside...does this mean our pass rush will falter (even more)?
 
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