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Jordan Palmer says Jordan Love is a Top 10 Pick (Pat McAfee Show)

With as many QB needy teams picking in the top 10 as there are, Jordan could end up being right about Love being a top 10 pick.
 
What do you expect the guys who’s coaching him to say? Love going high helps his personal coaching business.

Based on physical skill he should be rated high. I’m concerned with the mental aspect....pre snap reads, progressions, quick decisions, etc. At times he looks good, other times he looks incredibly raw and needing lots of coaching.
 
As much as I can't stand McAfee, Palmer was enjoyable to listen to.
 
Great news it would help not hinder the Dolphins to see a QB deadlock - the price does not get overly inflated sitting at #5

The inflation goes up for everyone behind us tho
 
IrKEVerent said:
Great news it would help not hinder the Dolphins to see a QB deadlock - the price does not get overly inflated sitting at #5

The inflation goes up for everyone behind us tho
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like the year the Cards waited for Rosen bc so many QBs were rated high.

I just hope it’s not Miami having another Rosen fall into their lap. We already have him. If their guy is not there trade back or take Derrick Brown. Then trade back up for your 2nd tier QB or say F it and move up for Kinlaw or a stud OT.

can you imagine 3-4 multiple front defense with Wilkins, Brown and Kinlaw? Good lord.....building blocks.....
 
PSU Cane said:
like the year the Cards waited for Rosen bc so many QBs were rated high.

I just hope it’s not Miami having another Rosen fall into their lap. We already have him. If their guy is not there trade back or take Derrick Brown. Then trade back up for your 2nd tier QB or say F it and move up for Kinlaw or a stud OT.

can you imagine 3-4 multiple front defense with Wilkins, Brown and Kinlaw? Good lord.....building blocks.....
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We are at #5 not #11-#12 range is what I am saying
 
I could see top 10. Teams to watch for a potential trade up include the LA Chargers and Las Vegas Raiders. The Carolina Panthers are a wildcard in the quarterback chase. Picking later in the draft, both New Orleans and New England need young quarterbacks to develop.

Obviously, Cincinnati and Miami badly need quarterbacks and the Washington Redskins are rumored to be in on Tua. So, yes top 10 for Love could definitely happen.
 
Firstly, why do I care what Jordan Palmer says about anything? Let alone a player he stands to profit from?

Taking Love in the Top 10 would be a huge gamble, he is all potential right now.He is as likely to flop entirely as he is to make it as a solid starter.The chances of him becoming the kind of QB worth a top 10 pick are pretty low.

I know it is less of a financial setback when high picks flop but that kind of move gets people fired.Sure you look like a genius if he turns out to be a Franchise QB but i would put the odds on that happening with Love at 20% tops.

He looks a bit like Mahomes, but he is not Mahomes.

But QB's make everyone crazy.
 
jimthefin said:
Firstly, why do I care what Jordan Palmer says about anything? Let alone a player he stands to profit from?

Taking Love in the Top 10 would be a huge gamble, he is all potential right now.He is as likely to flop entirely as he is to make it as a solid starter.The chances of him becoming the kind of QB worth a top 10 pick are pretty low.

I know it is less of a financial setback when high picks flop but that kind of move gets people fired.Sure you look like a genius if he turns out to be a Franchise QB but i would put the odds on that happening with Love at 20% tops.

He looks a bit like Mahomes, but he is not Mahomes.

But QB's make everyone crazy.
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I know 20% seems bleak, and you'd like better from a Top 10 pick, but it's very unlikely you'll get a guy with a 20% chance of being a franchise QB outside the Top 10. If you added up all the non-Top 10 QB's, you'd probably still be at less than 20%.
 
To be fair 20% is just a number I came up with, it is not a real, concrete data point.

I might be being generous or underselling the kid, that's what makes this so tough.

Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Mahomes, Wilson are 5 guys not taken anywhere near the Top 10, not to mention guys like Prescott, L Jackson, Jimmy G,

Roethlisberger was the 11th pick so i will call him a Top 10, and D Watson was #12 so I will through him in too. Stafford was #1, so was Cam Newton, Matt Ryan was #3, and the jury is still out on high picks like Mayfield, Goff, Wentz, Darnold, Allen, Jones and Murray.

Winston, Mariota and Trubisky are looking like flops of one degree or another, flop is probably too harsh for Winston.

So it looks to me like outside the Top 10 is as likely a spot to find a really good to great QB as inside the Top 10 or so. Now obviously there are way more players picked outside than in but you clearly do not NEED to pick really high to get one.

Now the fact of the matter is Miami has a high pick AND needs a QB so it would probably behoove them to make those two facts merge and get their guy, but they do not absolutely have to get the "guy" with that #5 pick. But if they want Tua or Herbert they will likely have to take him there or move up or down slightly for either of them.
 
From a physical toolset perspective, Palmer is absolutely right, and the same would go for Herbert. Both these guys will go in the top 10 IF a team feel they are ready to develop a guy with the physical tools to play the position in he NFL. Both players need to work on the mental side of the game, if you could combine Love or Herbert's physical abilities with Fromm's football brain you would have the perfect prospect or Tua.

The problem for Love in particular is finding that team that desperately wants a developmental QB and the overall quality of this draft class at other positions. Is anyone willing to pass up on a player like Simmons, Jeudy, Lamb, Brown, Kinlaw, etc for a player that's not going to help your team for at least a couple of years (if at all)? The only team currently picking in the top 10 that fit's that profile are Miami, simply because we have the extra draft capital and we are in the rebuilding process. You could make a case for the Panthers but passing on the talent they would have to, that's going to be tough with just one first rounder.
 
Geordie said:
From a physical toolset perspective, Palmer is absolutely right, and the same would go for Herbert. Both these guys will go in the top 10 IF a team feel they are ready to develop a guy with the physical tools to play the position in he NFL. Both players need to work on the mental side of the game, if you could combine Love or Herbert's physical abilities with Fromm's football brain you would have the perfect prospect or Tua.

The problem for Love in particular is finding that team that desperately wants a developmental QB and the overall quality of this draft class at other positions. Is anyone willing to pass up on a player like Simmons, Jeudy, Lamb, Brown, Kinlaw, etc for a player that's not going to help your team for at least a couple of years (if at all)? The only team currently picking in the top 10 that fit's that profile are Miami, simply because we have the extra draft capital and we are in the rebuilding process. You could make a case for the Panthers but passing on the talent they would have to, that's going to be tough with just one first rounder.
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If you think he can be the guy at QB, then you roll the dice and miss out on the other prospects. If Love ends up being who we've been waiting for, no one will care that we didn't get Derrick Brown, Isaiah, Simmons, Whirffs, etc.
 
finomenal said:
If you think he can be the guy at QB, then you roll the dice and miss out on the other prospects. If Love ends up being who we've been waiting for, no one will care that we didn't get Derrick Brown, Isaiah, Simmons, Whirffs, etc.
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I agree that's why it makes sense for us, not sure it does for the other teams in the top 10 though.
 
I remember a bunch of people saying pass on Matt Ryan because he threw 19 INT's his senior year. He turned out alright....better career than Jake Long. That said, I'd pass on Love until after 3nd round. I've seen it year after year, if you have a QB with a quick release and accuracy, he can at least play in the NFL. Love doesn't have either on a high enough level. Watch the game films and his release. He'll keep throwing those picks on the pro level.
 
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