Just saw Beck on CSTV
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feelthepain
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Did you happen to see who it was that drilled him just after he threw the TD pass? It was none other then our very own 4th round pick Paul Soliai! Crazy ain't it?
dabeastdabone
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I have no problem thinking only positives about Beck, but Utah (or most the teams Beck faced) are not even div 1 quality defensive teams much less NFL quality defensive teams. Maybe good to watch but don't take much out of it.
levv151
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Glass half empty, glass have empty...that's a beautiful rose...BUT it's going to die eventually...c'mon man, GET FRIGGIN PUMPED ABOUT THIS KID, OUR TEAM, the future and direction of the team!!!!!! Life with the glass half full is so much better...
cheyannefan
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Beck has the ability to step up and lead his team in the final minutes of games. Let's hope he can do that in the NFL. Being that he is much older than normal rookies he may not need as much time to mature. I hope he is the QB that we've needed and that he succeeds in this offense.
alienalias
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Well, yes... but you can't discount it either. LaDainian Tomlinson was from the same Conference. Beck led the team to 10 straight victories, and then a spanking of Pac 10 Oregon Ducks in a bowl game whilst passing for 375 yards. BYU scored 38 points against the Oregon D', while USC only scored 35 against them. You can't discard his success simply because he comes from BYU... the same school as Steve Young and Jim McMahon.
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John Elway went to Stanford. Dan Marino went to Univ. of Pittsburgh. Neither one of those schools are considered college football powerhouses. Jay Cutler went to Vanderbilt and he's looking pretty good so far. Terry Bradshaw went to Louisiana Tech and he made it to the Hall of Fame. Steve Young went to BYU and he's one of the 23 "Modern Era" QBs in the Hall of Fame.
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It's not as easy coming from a lesser known school but other guys have done it and gone on to good careers. We shall see with John Beck too. The rubber meets the road once he gets named the starter and plays about 8-10 games. Then, we'll get an idea about his talent and long term potential.
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If you are going to use the small school competition then you must also use small school teammates. How would his talents have fared with USC's offense? How would he have done if he had Florida's weapons?
I think it is all relative. Competition is less but so is his weapons.
I think it is all relative. Competition is less but so is his weapons.
FINSTER
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It's Football. The game is the same, he just needs to rise to the level of the NFL. It's all about being challenged and meeting the challenge. He made the jump from high school to BYU. Now let's see if John Beck makes the next leap to NFL quarterback. Based on what I saw on CSTV today,I am betting he does.
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Great points!
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My friend when Dan Marino was at PITT it was considered a powerhouse!! They put alot of guys in the NFL during that era!! Look it up!!!
utahphinsfan
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So, it doesn't mater that Soliai & Eric Weddle ((FS (drafted in the 2nd by the Chargers)) were on the Utah squad that day?
As for the game itself, The Utes left far too much time on the clock. I don't fault Evans (the other Ute safety) came to help Soliai lay a lick on Beck?
The thing that gripes me about Utah is that current coach Kyle Whittingham (Urban Meyer's successor) is as bland and clueless as Wannstedt.
Despite being a U of Utah grad, I was stoked when the phins drafted Beck. JB is the best QB to come out of BYU since Ty Detmer. The best being Jim McMahon.
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And, Ty Detmer. :wink:
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It just goes to show you that if Beck can handle a big hit from 350 lb. Paul Soliai, he can handle some of the big hits he'll see in the NFL. Gotta get whacked, see stars for a few seconds and get back up.
What will probably blow Beck's mind is the speed of some of these linebackers and defensive ends ... guys like Mario Williams, who is about 300 lbs. and ran a 4.6 40 at the combine. Guys like Julius Peppers, Brian Urlacher, Ray Lewis, Dwight Freeney, Richard Seymour, etc. I hope he's ready for those guys. There's a bunch of scary defensive dudes out there in the big bad NFL. Fortunately, we've got a bunch of them on our team ... Jason Taylor, Joey Porter, Vonnie Holliday, Channing, Zach, etc.
Beck might need to bulk up a little and do whatever exercises he can do to prevent injuries, etc. Do yoga, stretching ... whatever the expert trainers say is the best things he can do. Maybe he should go to Athlete's Performance in Arizona where Ronnie goes and work out with those guys for a few weeks in the next year or so. Beck is from Arizona I think.