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KEEPING GRIER!?? WTF

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I understand getting rid of Flores at least that can be debated. I think he’s a terrible offensive mind and his inability to hire the right staff and his record speaks for itself.
But to keep Chris Grier the guy is got to be the worst GM in the history of the National Football League what fvcking blackmail bullsht does he have on Ross that he keeps his fvcking job???!
 
It goes back to the same speculation as when Tannenbaum was canned and Grier was kept on. Maybe Grier has proof that he wanted to draft X, Y, and Z, but Flores insisted on drafting D, E, and F for his “systems.”

There was no question that Flores was very heavily involved in our draft selections.
 
risskybzns said:
I understand getting rid of Flores at least that can be debated. I think he’s a terrible offensive mind and his inability to hire the right staff and his record speaks for itself.
But to keep Chris Grier the guy is got to be the worst GM in the history of the National Football League what fvcking blackmail bullsht does he have on Ross that he keeps his fvcking job???!
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Grier sucks ****. He’s the only common denominator left that’s been with organization for 20+ years. 20+ years of misery and the shitshow will continue with this clown who totally ****ed up the rebuild with his shitty drafting in 2020
 
Nobody knows who picked who so criticizing drafts is just dumb. Grier is also responsible to obtaining picks and the salary cap both of which we have the most or near most in the league of. End of the day came down to Flo not supporting Tua which is why he’s no longer here.
 
We're now in the phase of gaslighting this organization is so good at that Flores (Sparano, Philbin, Gase, etc.) was the problem and now we're going to harvest this abundance of talent that these retread GMs Stephen Ross has an affection for has acquired.
 
MARINO1384 said:
Nobody knows who picked who so criticizing drafts is just dumb. Grier is also responsible to obtaining picks and the salary cap both of which we have the most or near most in the league of. End of the day came down to Flo not supporting Tua which is why he’s no longer here.
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If this is true, then there shouldn’t be any talk in the off-season about going after Watson or Wilson etc.
 
Ryan1973 said:
The problem is Grier will be involved in hiring the new head coach and he won't hire someone who will threaten his job. That's why a complete house cleaning was in order just like the Vikings and Bears did.
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And Ross for some reason just doesn’t operate this way.

It sounds more and more like there was a rift between Grier and Flores and Flores lost. Corporate politics at work.

Grier is a political animal. He has to be to survive as long as he has during a 20 year span of futility. He’s holding the team back in a sense as we will not get a proven coach IMO to come work for him. I’d love Pederson - he won a SB. He had ties to this org. He’s a good coach and aggressive. Would he work for Grier?
 
royalshank said:
And Ross for some reason just doesn’t operate this way.

It sounds more and more like there was a rift between Grier and Flores and Flores lost. Corporate politics at work.

Grier is a political animal. He has to be to survive as long as he has during a 20 year span of futility. He’s holding the team back in a sense as we will not get a proven coach IMO to come work for him. I’d love Pederson - he won a SB. He had ties to this org. He’s a good coach and aggressive. Would he work for Grier?
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And that's why Ross is a terrible owner. He has never done the right thing when it comes to a complete house cleaning.
 
It's truly baffling. I tried very hard for a long time to give Steve Ross the benefit of the doubt and find the positives, because frankly, fans are stuck with him. I can't really do it anymore.

Ross is an honest to God moron, full stop. There's really no other explanation at this point for how the team's GM can consistently bungle the draft, free agency, and contract negotiations and still maintain employment. I don't care if Ross was sensitive to the optics of clean sweeping the only black GM/HC combo in the league, because even if he was this was still an insanely stupid way to go about doing it. Grier was the biggest problem and remains the biggest problem.

He is the one who had a relationship with Flores, he is the one who hired Flores, and ultimately, he is the one responsible for Flores. The cynical, manipulative, and cowardly operation of Chris Grier, getting his boy a job and then throwing him under the bus to save his own skin? That's just pathetic. This guy has become a Jeff Ireland level disaster, maybe even moreso, since at least Ireland could claim he never wanted Joe Philbin.

Right now what the Dolphins franchise needs is a plane crash involving Ross and Bruce Beal Jr. That's really the only way out of this nightmare.
 
risskybzns said:
I understand getting rid of Flores at least that can be debated. I think he’s a terrible offensive mind and his inability to hire the right staff and his record speaks for itself.
But to keep Chris Grier the guy is got to be the worst GM in the history of the National Football League what fvcking blackmail bullsht does he have on Ross that he keeps his fvcking job???!
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In the history of football. I see your Chris Grier and raise you a Matt Millen the guy who put together the first winless team in NFL history.
 
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