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Ken Macha fired

I'm hoping they dont get Girardi, but I have to say I dont really understand this move. I need unified to explain this one
 
DonShula84 said:
I'm hoping they dont get Girardi, but I have to say I dont really understand this move. I need unified to explain this one

The experts think Ron Washington (current 3rd base coach) will get the job. Apparently they don't think Girardi and Beane could work together.
 
This surprises me and doesn't surprise me at the same time if that is possible.

According to an article in a San Francisco paper, Billy Beane and Macha had had a poor working relationship for awhile. Macha was not what you'd call a "player's manager". He really didn't have much of a relationship with the players at all to be honest from what I've read.

Macha had a nice little run in Oakland and I think when Beane watched the team go down in flames in the ALCS he needed someone to hang. Anyone that has read "Moneyball" knows that Beane is not exactly the calmest guy. His temper can get the best of him, remember, he basically fired Macha after last year but brought him back anyway. I think he is just finishing the job he wanted to do.

Ron Washington is easily the front runner for the job. He's been interviewed countless times by other teams and I think Beane will finally give him a shot. If Ron does get the job we could see a slight change in the A's. Ron likes the running game. I don't see the A's becoming the 80's Cardinals but they could maybe do some more hit and runs and maybe set some guys in motion on the bases.

Then again, Beane could plant his foot in Washington's *** and tell him "if you run your'e fired." :lol:

Ken Rosenthal has mentioned Orel Hershiser, Rockies bench coach Jamie Quirk, Yankees third base coach Larry Bowa and A's bench coach Bob Geren as other guys Beane will look at...

I think the change is for the better. I've never liked how Macha used the bullpen (he's overworked Duch for 2 years and he is too quick with the hook with the starters) or how he has managed injured players (he hung Bobby Crosby out to dry this year when it was plain as day for weeks that he was not right).

A fresh approach will be good.
 
Im an A's fan and I nvr really cared about Macha. He was never that good, he just does what Beane tells him....well he has to.
 
Dusty Baker coached SF in the bay area for years and he is on the market
 
Oakland who pays no players and is on a tight budget who lets every FA player walk......will now pay 2 managers for 2 seaons!!!

I don't get it. These teams cry poverty then do stuff like this and wonder why they can't turn a profit. He took you to the ALCS!!!! it isnt like the guy wasn't winning.
 
MikeO said:
Dusty Baker coached SF in the bay area for years and he is on the market



Dusty's has managed for 14 years in a row and had a real rough season. He needs to take a year or two to re-energize his battery and then should return. He should go into TV this season and start looking at jobs next year!
 
Any change in offensive philosophy will help Oakland. The last few years the offense has simply disappeared in the postseason because they dont have the boppers and they dont generate offense with the small ball game. They some speed, some hit and run guys to generate more offense cause the moneyball thing hasnt worked during the playoffs for a few years now.
 
MikeO said:
Dusty Baker coached SF in the bay area for years and he is on the market
Um would you let Dusty Baker handle your pitching staff? Didnt think so. Hes not good. Never has been. The reason those SF teams were good were cause of Barry, Kent and Schmidt. All Baker needed to do was fill out the lineup card.
 
MikeO said:
Oakland who pays no players and is on a tight budget who lets every FA player walk......will now pay 2 managers for 2 seaons!!!

I don't get it. These teams cry poverty then do stuff like this and wonder why they can't turn a profit. He took you to the ALCS!!!! it isnt like the guy wasn't winning.
By your reasoning, no team that is on a tight budget is allowed to fire anyone until their conrtact runs out?:sidelol::sidelol::sidelol::sidelol::sidelol:

They do what small market teams have to do. They sign their young players to contracts that knock a few years off their free agent status and then when they are going to hit it big they let them leave and get the draft pick compensation and start all over again. They are what EVERY small market team wants to be.

They'll be signing Dan Haren, Swisher, Street and Blanton to long term deals this off season. They signed Harden last winter.

Yes, they let their free agents walk, not every team can have $100 million dollar payrolls playing in the WORST ball park in the league in an over saturated Bay-Area market. They turn a small profit every year which in my opinion is allowed, even when you have a lower tier payroll.

Letting Giambi walk turned out fine. Letting Tejada walk turned out great. Jermaine Dye wasn't the same guy when they let him walk, Damon was never going to be resigned. I really don't see the issue with keeping your team young and cheap because you HAVE to...

Hey, I'd LOVE to see the A's leave Oakland. Move them to Vegas or San Jose...I don't care. Just get a new ballpark and keep the name.

I think this is a good move. Change the atmosphere in the clubhouse. Beane and MAcha have not gotten along for 2 years (according to what I read) and Beane wins that battle every day of the week.
 
Boik14 said:
Um would you let Dusty Baker handle your pitching staff? Didnt think so. Hes not good. Never has been. The reason those SF teams were good were cause of Barry, Kent and Schmidt. All Baker needed to do was fill out the lineup card.

No way in hell does Beane let a guy like Baker handle Haren, Harden, Blanton and Street. He'd set the franchise back 10 years if he got the gig.

I think Ron Washington gets the job but if Beane wants to REALLY change things he might bring in Larry Bowa.
 
unifiedtheory said:
No way in hell does Beane let a guy like Baker handle Haren, Harden, Blanton and Street. He'd set the franchise back 10 years if he got the gig.

I think Ron Washington gets the job but if Beane wants to REALLY change things he might bring in Larry Bowa.
No Gm with a conscious mind lets baker within 1000000 yards of their pitchers. I agree beane isnt going that route. Its going to be washington as the front runner with maybe guys like Girardi, Manny Acta (NYM 3b coach whos been interviewed by a few teams), and other unknowns bringing up the rear.
 
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