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Boston College's Matt Ryan reminds me of the three quarterbacks who were taken at the top of the first round in the 2004 NFL draft -- Eli Manning, Philip Rivers and Ben Roethlisberger. In four years, Manning and Roethlisberger already have won Super Bowls, and Rivers has reached the AFC Championship game. Ryan -- up to No. 3 on my Top 25 Big Board -- has a grade similar to that of Manning, Rivers and Roethlisberger when they were drafted. That's just one reason why you hear Ryan's name associated with the Miami Dolphins, who own the No. 1 pick.


Unfortunately this article is on ESPN Insider so I cant access the rest
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/insi...lumns/story?columnist=kiper_jr_mel&id=3232293
 
hmmm... i don't think we'll nab him. we have john beck! i think he can develop, and become a good force. but, if parcells/sporano likes him, i think we might pull the trigger.
 
I hope we continue to hear this kind of news about Matt Ryan over the next three months. The more he gets hyped up, the more other teams may actually believe we'll take him, then that No. 1 pick is tradable.
 
I would not put to much faith into John Beck starting next season for a couple of reasons.

1) Tuna did not draft him. It does not matter what round or how much he is paid.
2) He did not look even close to being ready last season. He will be something like 27 next season.

I am not saying he will be cut or anything like that. Just saying that he will have COMPETITION for the starting position. I think Matt Ryan is on the radar for the Big Tuna. After the Pro Day / Interviews / Combine...things will be much more clear.

I think Miami will do everything they can to either use the Draft/Trade/Free Agents to upgrade the position. The Phins have T. Green & John Beck... Matt Ryan is not out of the question. Then again neither is B. Brohm and the other rookies.

Miami is not going anywhere next season. It will take at least 2 full seasons to get the players needed. Sure John would not be to old to play at 29 or 30. But his age does come into play for the long term.

I want Chris Long at #1. But if Miami can find a way to trade down a few slots, then Matt Ryan is a strong option. That is if C. Long, G. Dorsey is already taken... ;)
 
why would you want to trade out of the pick when you can select a qb of this quality? john beck was never considered a franchise qb, ryan is a much better prospect coming out of college.
 
Casas9425 said:
why would you want to trade out of the pick when you can select a qb of this quality? john beck was never considered a franchise qb, ryan is a much better prospect coming out of college.
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I'm not sure everyone views Ryan as a franchise signal-caller. I've seen mixed reviews on him and his decision-making to me still leaves a lot to be desired. Unless you're 100 percent sold on him being a franchise QB, I don't think you make that commitment with the No. 1 pick.

As Parcells said, whoever that pick is should be a solid player for 10 years in this league. Not sure you can say that about Ryan.
 
I think Chris Long & G. Dorsey will be better PRO's than Matt Ryan. Although I think Matt Ryan will have a Solid Career in the NFL.

If Miami can trade down a few slots and get more picks or players...then hell yes do it. If Ryan is still there and C. Long & G. Dorsey is gone, hello Ryan.

But if they stay at #1...
1a) Chris Long
1b) Glenn Dorsey
1c) Matt Ryan
1d) Darren McFadden
1e) Sedrick Ellis
1f) Ryan Clady

That pretty much is my TOP 6... ;) in that order. :)
 
The key is how Parcells is going to view both Ryan and Beck. If Parcells believes Ryan is a huge upgrade at the most important position then I think we go QB. If he thinks there is little difference then I think we go defense (Chris Long probably)
 
FINMAN13 said:
I think Chris Long & G. Dorsey will be better PRO's than Matt Ryan. Although I think Matt Ryan will have a Solid Career in the NFL.

If Miami can trade down a few slots and get more picks or players...then hell yes do it. If Ryan is still there and C. Long & G. Dorsey is gone, hello Ryan.

But if they stay at #1...
1a) Chris Long
1b) Glenn Dorsey
1c) Matt Ryan
1d) Darren McFadden
1e) Sedrick Ellis
1f) Ryan Clady

That pretty much is my TOP 6... ;) in that order. :)
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:up: I would rather have Clady than Jake Long also
 
adamprez2003 said:
:up: I would rather have Clady than Jake Long also
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I just think that Jake Long will be another average LT/RT in the NFL. He was beaten pretty bad this past season. Some used force and some used speed. I do not watch a ton of his games. But when I did...I really did not notice him until he made a mistake. He did not have any great blocks downfield. He did his job plenty of plays. But seemed to be average for the most part.:foundout:

I am not a scout...so my thoughts are just that...thoughts.
 
It's quite simple guys. We take Ryan and he ends up being the biggest bust ever. We pass on him and he ends up being Eli/Big Ben/Rivers combined into one and wins a SB in his second year as a starter, dates a supermodel, and wins the Man of the Year award.

If I'm Ryan I hope to God the Phins pass on me. I really hope we drum up enough interest to get someone to trade up for him.
 
oasis said:
It's quite simple guys. We take Ryan and he ends up being the biggest bust ever. We pass on him and he ends up being Eli/Big Ben/Rivers combined into one and wins a SB in his second year as a starter, dates a supermodel, and wins the Man of the Year award.

If I'm Ryan I hope to God the Phins pass on me. I really hope we drum up enough interest to get someone to trade up for him.
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:lol::lol: Man dont you know that the witch(Brady) is dead? Didnt you see her slaughtered this Sunday. Our curse is broken I tell ya:lol:
 
I really like John Beck and i'm pulling for him. the only thing that worries me about him isn't so much his height but that he looks a little frail out there, don't you think? That might mean nothing but I love his accuracy and I think he has a good head for the game. Who knows?
 
sceeto said:
I really like John Beck and i'm pulling for him. the only thing that worries me about him isn't so much his height but that he looks a little frail out there, don't you think? That might mean nothing but I love his accuracy and I think he has a good head for the game. Who knows?
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The new Dolphins regime, which sees potential in John Beck, wants him to develop his body (size, strength, etc.), and Beck hired a trainer to do that. Beck -- one of the first two players to meet with GM Jeff Ireland ( Jason Taylor was the other) -- plans to stay mostly in South Florida for offseason work, but plans a brief Alaskan fishing trip with Csonka for Csonka's outdoor show.''I was impressed how quickly the ball came out of Beck's hands,'' said former Packers GM Ron Wolf, who watched the Dolphins' finale with friend Bill Parcells. ``He's got a very, very quick release and some mustard on the ball.''

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/story/404417.html
 
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