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Kurt Warner's analysis of Tua's 6 TDs
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I just posted this exact video in another thread! You beat me to it!
Another good breakdown.
As Warner correctly points out, a big part of the game of football is taking advantage of the opponents mistakes. You still have to identify the busted coverages and make the play.
Tua did that, along with improvising and making contested throws.
Another good breakdown.
As Warner correctly points out, a big part of the game of football is taking advantage of the opponents mistakes. You still have to identify the busted coverages and make the play.
Tua did that, along with improvising and making contested throws.
Best in the biz IMO...and has the resume to be taken seriously.
It’s at least objective and fair.
He details the mistakes first, then moves on to all the great plays.
FWIW, Warner’s opinion on the 1st INT mirrors the opinion I gave immediately after the game. It wasn’t so much a bad play by Tua as it was a good play by the defense.
I can’t recall if it was Hasselbeck or someone else, but another analyst felt Tyreek needed to come back to the ball to help the QB out.
Opinions vary, but the consensus as far as I can tell from the former QB’s that have analyzed that play was that it wasn’t a huge mistake by Tua as some fans here claim.
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Good memory. Hasselbeck said the WR needs to come back to the QB and help him out instead of turning and allowing the safety/db to make a break on the ball. It was on the Pat McAfee show.
Lol, agreed.
But i don't want too many people saying that.
We don't need Hill getting cranky and saying "fine do it yoyrself" lol
So to keep Hill happy. "Bad Tua
Don't do I again" lol
Warner's breakdowns are one of my favorites. He so clearly understands QB play. He points out what matters in QB play, getting the ball out accurately and on time to the right guy. All the other stuff that idiots like Cowherd or some of the posters here harp on is so unimportant and so ignorant.
I did agree that that second INT was a horrid decision. Tua predetermined his target and tried to manipulate the S, but that throw was never there.
I hadn't noticed that Tua missed the read on that TD to Cracraft. He should have hit the quick pass to Ingold. The resulting play was more impressive and I'm sure it convinced some of the haters b/c it was more impressive, but it was a mistake. Fortunately, he was able to overcome his mistake and the whiff by Williams, through his athleticism, quickness and accuracy.
I was impressed by Tua's throws on those plays with free rushers. One was the one Warner said was his favorite play where Tua hit Hill on that skinny post. But also on that TD to to Hill where everybody was focused on the busted coverage, Eich whiffed on his block and he had Campbell running free at him up the middle.
BTW I'm not sure why every body is so confused by the D the Ravens were running on that play. It's just a zero blitz look where they drop into coverage. Miami runs it all the time. On that play all the DBs tend to squat at about 10 yards on the assumption that the QB will either be sacked by then or throw it hot on a short route. Usually you will drop your Ss back so the CB just played the coverage he usually does. The issue was the formation. Going 3x1 just made it tough/impossible for the S to get back in time. And Hill and Tua had discussed previously that if they get that look again, Hill was going to go deep instead of the usual hot adjustment.
I did agree that that second INT was a horrid decision. Tua predetermined his target and tried to manipulate the S, but that throw was never there.
I hadn't noticed that Tua missed the read on that TD to Cracraft. He should have hit the quick pass to Ingold. The resulting play was more impressive and I'm sure it convinced some of the haters b/c it was more impressive, but it was a mistake. Fortunately, he was able to overcome his mistake and the whiff by Williams, through his athleticism, quickness and accuracy.
I was impressed by Tua's throws on those plays with free rushers. One was the one Warner said was his favorite play where Tua hit Hill on that skinny post. But also on that TD to to Hill where everybody was focused on the busted coverage, Eich whiffed on his block and he had Campbell running free at him up the middle.
BTW I'm not sure why every body is so confused by the D the Ravens were running on that play. It's just a zero blitz look where they drop into coverage. Miami runs it all the time. On that play all the DBs tend to squat at about 10 yards on the assumption that the QB will either be sacked by then or throw it hot on a short route. Usually you will drop your Ss back so the CB just played the coverage he usually does. The issue was the formation. Going 3x1 just made it tough/impossible for the S to get back in time. And Hill and Tua had discussed previously that if they get that look again, Hill was going to go deep instead of the usual hot adjustment.
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If you look closely on the first int three things stand out to me. First Tua is releasing the ball before the wr is coming out his break, which we've seen him do effectively multiple times. Now look at Hill and compare him to Waddle on the opposite side. Hill is a beat off timing wise to getting out of the curl route, Tua has no way of knowing that Hill is going to be late at that point and not be a position to work back towards the qb to make the catch. If Hill's timing is the same as Waddle's at the top it's likely an easy reception. The third thing was the two safeties depth. Notice that the safety covering Hill is two yards shallower than the one covering Waddle and in a much better position to make a break on the curl route. Had this been a go route and the safety was cheating up like that Hill would have had another long td reception. The safety cheated/guessed on the play and made a good defensive play. However, if the safety plays it as he should and Hill is on time as he usually is this is an easy reception and nobody has a problem with the decision by Tua or the throw.
That was a great watch. Tua played a great game and there's no way around that.
While I would personally prefer that Tua just hit the checkdown there, reality is that Tua is a very aggressive QB. He tends to trust his WRs to beat their guy. And now he has receivers who are worthy of that trust. He will do it again.
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Yeah, interesting. And the one many of us thought wasn't a big mistake but a great play, the second interception, was a mistake. Only goes to show what some of us know, we had it all backwards. Great breakdown.
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Wow!! What a great video. Thank you. Not only was it informative but it also has me questioning if I know what I'm really seeing when being critical of Tua. I though the dude was a one or two read guy but this smacked that idea in the face. 
Warner said exactly what I said after the game. The QB took advantage of the Ravens defensive failures..... which is his job.
Lamar took advantage of our defensive failures and gets praised for a great game.
Tua does the exact same thing and it's because of busted coverages.
Lamar took advantage of our defensive failures and gets praised for a great game.
Tua does the exact same thing and it's because of busted coverages.
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It's not that the defense is confusing, it's that the cb sits there like an idiot while Tyreek runs by him. He was getting beat anyway, but he looked foolish.