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How about roughing up and standing up to Incognito?

Man, this is like saying that the rape victim should not have worn a short skirt. For now, it looks like Martin is the victim and it's on Ritchie - and maybe the team's management is they heard about but not acted on this matter - the whole distraction...
 
Because if he is so offended, why wait until now?

Exactly for the reason we're seeing all this unfold. He probably went to see someone who took some form of light action... continued gettng hazed and this decision haunted him for months knowing full well that it would mean the end of his career and a crap-storm for his employer and other teammates who had nothing to do with the story...
 
Again, what NFL locker room will trust some one who didn't go to his Union rep., saved VMs and texts and gave those things to the media? I know that **** wouldn't fly in the real world. Much less a NFL locker room.

Your assessment of the real world might be a bit off. When long term harassment happens, the victims of that harassment are almost always advised to save anything and everything in case you need it down the road. That's what flies in the "real world."

Also, you have been repeatedly asserting that Martin did not go to his union rep. On what are you basing that assertion.
 
Why does it have to be so hard to be a Dolphin fan? Why?

I think we have to get out of our own way in thinking of how it's hard to be a fan and put ourselves in Jon Martin's shoes and think what he went through and all that he is going through right now in all this
 
Man, this is like saying that the rape victim should not have worn a short skirt. For now, it looks like Martin is the victim and it's on Ritchie - and maybe the team's management is they heard about but not acted on this matter - the whole distraction...

No its not. Not even close.
 
The Union rep is there to ensure a safe work place. We are now being led to believe, Martin didn't feel safe, 7 months after the VMs and text messages were sent.

These VM's and texts establish a HISTORY of abuse... What exactly are you missing here???
 
Exactly for the reason we're seeing all this unfold. He probably went to see someone who took some form of light action... continued gettng hazed and this decision haunted him for months knowing full well that it would mean the end of his career and a crap-storm for his employer and other teammates who had nothing to do with the story...

I do not buy it.
 
I appreciate your reponse, but this is exactly my point. Bullying, school shootings and such have become glorified. I'm not saying the press shouldn't report it and bring light to it, but there is such a thing as negative press on a legitimate topic. School shootings used to never happen. Now, anytime someone doesn't like how they are treated, a gun gets brought into the situation.

But there is a very fine line here. Most people never know the real truth about situations. And the press tends to want to "shock" the world and not do true investigative reporting. In time, you find our that many people claim "bullying" as another way of crying wolf. They use the phrase like yelling fire in a crowded room to get attention. In many cases, THEY were the bullies. Prime example, Richie fired off in the social media when Martin left the team. This board lit up with people taking Incog's side and piling on Martin.

They were misinformed. And believed the first version of the story. True bullies know how to manipulate stories and those around them. Heck, Richie was even given an INTERVIEW by one of those glorified acronyms you just listed. Talking about his rebirth and how he's changed as a human. It was a real tear jerking moment.

He manipulated that situation to give himself much needed PR and it's results were proven when this story broke. Most people jumped on his side. The skillful bully won, at first.

The media can be a good thing, but it can also be a bad thing. It can incite a mob as much as it can soothe one. It wasn't until some reporters actually INVESTIGATED the story to find out the truth that we see what really happened.

News agencies have a duty to report the truth and get down to the facts. But FEW really do. Believing everything reported is gospel is equivalent to saying everything posted on the internet is truth. To say all of those agencies always report the truth only makes the spreading of bad information by them easier to do.

One day, we'll learn it's not the victims who need to overcome bullying. it's the people who are witnessing it that need to overcome it. They are the ones who can make a real difference. Instead of waiting for someone else to do something or some news agency to tell them it's okay to act, one day people will realize that being a human and treating others fairly doesn't need an audience. It just needs people with a moral backbone to live by it and help their neighbor.

The truth is irrelevant to most of those media outlets. But they have no problem being politically correct and pushing a POV on a stupid public. Going so far that the term 'bullying' is now being used for this case. Which alot of people here are parroting.

Most people here, would handle this situation much differently than Martin. Most here couldn't walk off the job and think they still were owed something. Most here don't save text messages or VMs from April. People who refuse to understand that Martin isn't blameless in his immaturity in dealing with a professional work place, are the problem in today's society. This is the age of the purple marker and the 'participation' award, where no one wants to be offended.

Martin had a path to remedy his situation. He saved his 'proof' for the media, left his team in a tough spot during a work week. And people are suppose to feel sorry for the SOB? Nope not here. Many people have had to deal with characters at work who mutter things that would make your skin crawl. But many of us don't walk off the job. Many of us don't run to the papers. Many of us, deal with it and move on.
 
The Union rep is there to ensure a safe work place. We are now being led to believe, Martin didn't feel safe, 7 months after the VMs and text messages were sent.

There is no statute of limitations on a hostile working environment accusation. It could have happened repeatedly for 2 years, with Martin keeping and gathering information and he still could have gone to his employer and at no point in time can his employer legally say, "well you should have came to us a year ago. There is nothing we can do".
 
I do not buy it.

Have you ever been bullied?

I have.

And let me tell you, it's a living hell. And yes, you have all kinds of ideas to try to end the misery... And it keeps you up at night and think of what can get you out of the situation without shedding a light on you - because that's exactly what you don't need: to relive what happened.
 
Does it matter when they were? Does it make it any worse if the texts were last week or last year?
 
These VM's and texts establish a HISTORY of abuse... What exactly are you missing here???

Show me something from last week, last month...something not in April. What are you missing?
 
Sounds like the texts were in April. Unreal. Seven months ago. LOL.

In one of the first developing stories, it was said this was an ongoing issue and Philbin and Ireland were alerted of it a while back, I assume they acted and had "thought is had been resolved". So maybe since this is such a quiet organization, they kept everything under wraps until it boiled over
 
I want to know why Martin didn't punch Incognito in the face. They are both 300 pounds. This shows how soft Martin actually is. May explain why he has been getting manhandled for the past two years.
 
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