Lane Johnson facing 4 game suspension for PEDs

[Vaark]

I guess neither the Eagles or Dolphins get last laugh on this one.
Didn't want either as I said before but at least Johnson was able to be more than the 4th tackle off the bench year one.

So by inference you're saying that if Jordan wasn't so late to the party, he'd also have been starting (instead of Vernon) last season, eh?

 

[dlockz]

So by inference you're saying that if Jordan wasn't so late to the party, he'd also have been starting (instead of Vernon) last season, eh?

Not at all. I doubt he starts over Vernon regardless at DE. Hell Im not sure he would start over Derrick Shelby. In fact the week after he played his most when Wake got hurt the team still started Shelby over him.
I guess Jordan started though on Special Teams

 

[Vaark]

Not at all. I doubt he starts over Vernon regardless at DE. Hell Im not sure he would start over Derrick Shelby. In fact the week after he played his most when Wake got hurt the team still started Shelby over him.
I guess Jordan started though on Special Teams

Likewise we don't know how useful to the Eagles Johnson would have been without the benefit of PEDs. Hell, wiithout PEDs, do we even know if Johnson would have been a first round pick at all? We can only speculate. :idk:

 

[dlockz]

Likewise we don't know how useful to the Eagles Johnson would have been without the benefit of PEDs. Hell, wiithout PEDs, do we even know if Johnson would have been a first round pick at all? We can only speculate. :idk:

Isnt it just as likely that Jordan has been on Peds as long as Johnson. So all Peds being equal Johnson still wasn't the 4th tackle on his team.

 

[Vaark]

Isnt it just as likely that Jordan has been on Peds as long as Johnson. So all Peds being equal Johnson still wasn't the 4th tackle on his team.

not at all as likely... johnson stayed the same physique, Jordan just bulked up.

 

[dlockz]

not at all as likely... johnson stayed the same physique, Jordan just bulked up.

So u are judging by physique. Both of these guys are cheaters that I would not have took with the 3rd pick in the draft or traded up to the third pick to get.
Beyond them getting caught this year we cant assume one took peds and the other didn't to become the so called players they are.

 

[Vaark]

if bulking up isn't a telltale sign, then I dunno what is. I'd say based on physiology, if you had to bet who got more benefit out of parlaying PEDs into a high draft pick, I'd have to go with Johnson. It'll be interesting to see how effective he will or won't be now that there's no more free rides.

 

[dlockz]

Just for Info the NFL steroid policy has from 12000 to 14000 tests per year with 10 players tested each week.
I personally think they should do 25 percent each time randomly. Im sure this is a pricey endeavor though.

 

[dlockz]

if bulking up isn't a telltale sign, then I dunno what is. I'd say based on physiology, if you had to bet who got more benefit out of parlaying PEDs into a high draft pick, I'd have to go with Johnson. It'll be interesting to see how effective he will or won't be now that there's no more free rides.

We have no clue when either player began taking peds. I refuse to defend either of these guys.
According to draft express he played most of 2012 at around 225 . We know what he weighed at combine so maybe he started using PEDS prior to this to add bulk.

None of us know.

 

[Vaark]

Welll what we do know is that this PED suspension puts into question whatever good things Johnson was perceived of doing last season :idk:

 

[dlockz]

Welll what we do know is that this PED suspension puts into question whatever good things Johnson was perceived of doing last season :idk:

And in question whatever little that Jordan did last year . Two guys that showed a lack of character and judgement and really don't want either player on my team.
Don't have much choice with Jordan since his value is definitely not rising.

 

[utahphinsfan]

Who wants to make the DJ for LJ trade now?