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Lazor could leave miami for the jets next season...

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If Idzik and Rex got fired, #Eagles Tom Gamble GM & #Dolphins OC Bill Lazor Head Coach. Worked together in past, & Lazor's young star NFL...this could hurt tanny devolopment and probably the only reason Joe stays.


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Yeah this guy has been banging that drum for awhile. He also kept insisting Harbaugh was gonna be the next Dolphins coach.
 
TheWalrus said:
True.

But how ironic would it be for Ross to keep Philbin for continuity only to lose the OC?
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I don't think it would bother me all that much if we got away from the read option emphasis...although it would definitely impact the running game
 
hooshoops said:
I don't think it would bother me all that much if we got away from the read option emphasis...although it would definitely impact the running game
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That read option stuff also helps the passing game by forcing the defense to play more zone coverage and helps create passing lanes inside by influencing the linebackers. There's a reason RGme found wide open passing lanes as a rookie and hasn't since. It also hampers some of the fronts the defense can play on running downs. Can't be as exotic.

Not to mention all the normal ways that an effective running game can help the passing game.
 
Would be a pretty decent blow.

Don't know why Lazor would go there. That roster is a trainwreck. No idea why Gamble would go to NY either.

I think I see Quinn or Bowles going there. Most likely Quinn.
 
TheWalrus said:
That read option stuff also helps the passing game by forcing the defense to play more zone coverage and helps create passing lanes inside by influencing the linebackers. There's a reason RGme found wide open passing lanes as a rookie and hasn't since. It also hampers some of the fronts the defense can play on running downs. Can't be as exotic.

Not to mention all the normal ways that an effective running game can help the passing game.
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Yeah but there's too much emphasis of it although I get that it also helps hide protection issues...miami still though works a predictable route combination out of it

My biggest issue though is too much red zone emphasis with it...I think they got to let the qb play more in those scenarios...routes working in short fields to clogged zone interiors etc...
 
hooshoops said:
I don't think it would bother me all that much if we got away from the read option emphasis...although it would definitely impact the running game
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Lazor is probably the best coordinator we have had in years! Regardless of the read option emphasis.
 
If that happens this franchise will definitely be doomed, and Tannehills development in this system will take a hit.
 
hooshoops said:
Yeah but there's too much emphasis of it although I get that it also helps hide protection issues...miami still though works a predictable route combination out of it

My biggest issue though is too much red zone emphasis with it...I think they got to let the qb play more in those scenarios...routes working in short fields to clogged zone interiors etc...
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Well, yeah, because you're reading the backside linebacker. If he is widening you throw in behind him on a slant (or give the ball to the RB, depending on the call). You can't run anything sophisticated because after all we're talking about an unblocked defender. We've added the interesting wrinkle of the playside screen, but it only seems to get a yard or so. Better than the QB getting hit.

Anyway, any team with a mobile QB should be running this stuff. It's criminal not to. A waste. Not just because a quarterback sprinting through the secondary untouched for 20 yards is a great sight to see, but because it's affect filters down to the rest of the offense. Maybe you're worried about the QB getting hit too much and think he'd be just as productive without it. I disagree. It helps him. Even on plays where we don't run it it is making the defense more predictable and easier to scheme against.
 
If I had to put money on it i'd bet Lazor will be back with us next year.
 
Would suck to lose Lazor. The development he has with RT needs to continue. They compliment each other, RT learns the offense and position better, and Lazor becomes more effective as a coordinator as each game goes by.
Who could blame Lazor for going to become a HC? I wouldn't. I remember Linehan leaving us fo rthat position, and he was pretty effective as I recall.
 
Dr. Phin said:
Lazor is probably the best coordinator we have had in years! Regardless of the read option emphasis.
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That's not saying much but ok and he does have some nice play design...his tendencies though show up a lot...but Next year run this offense with tempo...it screams for it
 
TheWalrus said:
Well, yeah, because you're reading the backside linebacker. If he is widening you throw in behind him on a slant (or give the ball to the RB, depending on the call). You can't run anything sophisticated because after all we're talking about an unblocked defender. We've added the interesting wrinkle of the playside screen, but it only seems to get a yard or so. Better than the QB getting hit.

Anyway, any team with a mobile QB should be running this stuff. It's criminal not to. A waste. Not just because a quarterback sprinting through the secondary untouched for 20 yards is a great sight to see, but because it's affect filters down to the rest of the offense. Maybe you're worried about the QB getting hit too much and think he'd be just as productive without it. I disagree. It helps him. Even on plays where we don't run it it is making the defense more predictable and easier to scheme against.
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You could work outside the numbers on those one on ones more out of the play action...they could do more than just in cutters over the lb level or built in bubble screens...there's one on ones all over the place don't work them all into the congestion

And yeah anything that gets my qb potential extra contact I'm not a big fan of...especially when the shelf life of it isn't all that long...
 
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