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Coaching them up
Remember how Miami Dolphins coach Nick Saban was pilloried for his candid remarks after the team's 22-0 loss at Cleveland on Nov. 20? Think back for a moment to the outcry that followed Saban's comments and how some misguided souls actually wanted the league powers to initiate an investigation into whether the first-year head coach was insinuating his club might tank the rest of the season. For those of you with very poor recall, his remarks, in part, were: "The record doesn't really matter; the result doesn't matter; and the score in the game doesn't really matter."
Guess what? The opinion of no one who honestly felt the Dolphins were going down the tubes, with Saban greasing the skids, matters right now. Since Saban essentially said publicly what a lot of coaches think when they are in a rebuilding situation -- that the rest of the year would be an evaluation period and that any players deemed to have put things in coast mode could be viewed as extraneous come next season -- the Dolphins haven't lost. Beating up on dregs such as Oakland and Buffalo, well, that's nothing to brag about. But going to San Diego and beating a Chargers team everyone fears, and which is fighting for its playoff life, just reinforces what this space has said all along: Saban can coach.

The Dolphins survived some shaky officiating, and a couple of dubious instant replay rulings, to beat the Chargers and move to within a game of .500. There are no delusions in South Florida about going to the playoffs in Saban's debut season in the league. But Saban's six victories equal the total wins of the NFL's other two rookie coaches, Romeo Crennel of Cleveland and San Francisco's Mike Nolan, and the sentiment here is that both those guys have done admirable jobs in 2005.

Dare the Dolphins head into the Christmas season dreaming of a break-even campaign? Why not? The next two games are against the New York Jets and Tennessee, who own just seven wins between them, before a season finale at New England. Since Saban is a lot more careful now with his public utterances, the guess here is that he will never admit to the rest of the world that a .500 season would represent the start of a turnaround. Privately, though, an 8-8 mark probably would be pretty satisfying. And, after the beating he took following his remarks in the wake of the loss at Cleveland last month, pretty gratifying, too.

Way to go, Len! You tell it!

BTW, 8-8 isn't likely. 9-7 is MUCH more likely. The Patriots are not healthy, but they will easily put away either the Bucs or Jets to win the division title. They have like virtually ZERO hopes of getting the #3 seed.

In other words, Week 17 is their bye week. We'll travel up there and face the likes of Matt Cassel, Kevin Faulk, Bethel Johnson, Tully Banta-Cain, Matt Chatham, Marquise Hill, etc. If we can't beat that lot, we don't even deserve to be 8-8.
 
the jets yes...but honestly you see NE rolling over Tampa?
 
Can you imagine, Tampa beats the pats and the Jets beat them and then we beat them for the final game of the year and make the playoffs? Holy cripes! Man, if we some how, miraculous as it may be, actually get in.....whooa who knows what can happen and where the confidence for this team would be.
 
It's like what we said all along. When you're winning, the press loves you. When you lose, the press gets very nasty. They are as fair-weathered as the fans.
 
bigmiamifan said:
Can you imagine, Tampa beats the pats and the Jets beat them and then we beat them for the final game of the year and make the playoffs? Holy cripes! Man, if we some how, miraculous as it may be, actually get in.....whooa who knows what can happen and where the confidence for this team would be.

Vivid imagination.....:lol:
 
bigmiamifan said:
Can you imagine, Tampa beats the pats and the Jets beat them and then we beat them for the final game of the year and make the playoffs? Holy cripes! Man, if we some how, miraculous as it may be, actually get in.....whooa who knows what can happen and where the confidence for this team would be.
LOL, I guess ANYTHING can happen. However, I really do not see NE losing to the Jets. MAYBE the Bucs can beat them, but the Jets are hurting. If NE beats NYJ then they clinch the AFE. Thus for our game they will be playing mainly backups.

However, that is far from a walk over. Just ask the Bills about their last game of the season last year. They lost to a bunch of backups!
 
PhinSoldia said:
the jets yes...but honestly you see NE rolling over Tampa?
True. I think Tampa will be tough.

And dude - God is a ND fan. No way Quinn is coming out
 
Oboy said:
LOL, I guess ANYTHING can happen. However, I really do not see NE losing to the Jets. MAYBE the Bucs can beat them, but the Jets are hurting. If NE beats NYJ then they clinch the AFE. Thus for our game they will be playing mainly backups.

However, that is far from a walk over. Just ask the Bills about their last game of the season last year. They lost to a bunch of backups!

In the same thinking though look at the stage that the Jets will be playing NE. They are playing in NY and on Monday night. If there was ever a time for the Jets to come out and look good against a team it would be that night. I think that Sat. the Bucs are going to beat NE. I will be rooting for the Bucs like crazy. I still think we have a shot at this thing, we just need the Jets to play spoilers.

Not to mention we have to go into NE and take care of business.
 
DolfanTom said:
True. I think Tampa will be tough.

And dude - God is a ND fan. No way Quinn is coming out

God jumped from the Pats to ND eh?
 
Wow im glad someone noticed the awful officiating.
 
Tampa Bay just won AT Carolina, so winning at NE isn't out of the question, especially with TB battling for a playoff spot and/or a home playoff game.

Then NE travels to NY for a game much like the one NE played against us last December. It'll be NY's "Super Bowl" for the year, and NE will have a difficult time getting emotionally ready for a division rival that isn't playing well (same dynamics as last December's game against us).

It's almost a let-down to play a division rival that's doing so poorly. Teams are so used to getting ultra-hyped to play division rivals that it becomes an emotionally confusing situation to face them at 3-10.

I actually think it's more likely that we'll lose one of our next two games than it is that NE will win their games against TB and NY.
 
ckparrothead said:
Way to go, Len! You tell it!

BTW, 8-8 isn't likely. 9-7 is MUCH more likely. The Patriots are not healthy, but they will easily put away either the Bucs or Jets to win the division title. They have like virtually ZERO hopes of getting the #3 seed.

In other words, Week 17 is their bye week. We'll travel up there and face the likes of Matt Cassel, Kevin Faulk, Bethel Johnson, Tully Banta-Cain, Matt Chatham, Marquise Hill, etc. If we can't beat that lot, we don't even deserve to be 8-8.


Sry no

1-Tampa is gonna stomp NE

2- I made a whole thread about why NE will lose to the jets check it out

3- Vs us they will never sit their starters I dont care what their record is
 
ckparrothead said:
Way to go, Len! You tell it!

BTW, 8-8 isn't likely. 9-7 is MUCH more likely. The Patriots are not healthy, but they will easily put away either the Bucs or Jets to win the division title. They have like virtually ZERO hopes of getting the #3 seed.

In other words, Week 17 is their bye week. We'll travel up there and face the likes of Matt Cassel, Kevin Faulk, Bethel Johnson, Tully Banta-Cain, Matt Chatham, Marquise Hill, etc. If we can't beat that lot, we don't even deserve to be 8-8.

While the Patriots are not healthy, they are still a very good team and should not be taken lightly. I like the optimism, but let's take it week by week.
 
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