Let Daunte throw deep, its what hes best at

[cpeppfan]

there were virtually no deep passes, i think he threw one, but he is a very accurate deep passer, and can throw it a mile, spread out the defense, throw deep, opens up the offense, and will keep the defense on its heels

 

[nick1]

hard to do when our best deep threat is double covered and one of those guys is the best safety in the NFL

 

[nyfinzfan]

mularkey ball. no deep passes. boo

 

[CitizenSnips]

mularkey ball. no deep passes. boo

it'll change. Saban will change it eventually. i just hope its not much longer.

 

[Desides]

He'll throw deep balls once in a while. As ckparrothead keeps saying, we threw the ball deep with Frerotte to establish the deep threat to opposing defenses and keep them from stacking the box. With Culpepper, defenses already believe in our deep threat, and the danger is throwing too much.

 

[The Aqua Crush]

He'll throw deep balls once in a while. As ckparrothead keeps saying, we threw the ball deep with Frerotte to establish the deep threat to opposing defenses and keep them from stacking the box. With Culpepper, defenses already believe in our deep threat, and the danger is throwing too much.

however the strategy, we need to get chambers and mcmike involved early. deep , middle or short. that should take some attention away from RB. That was missing in the pit game and we still held in tight to the end.

If they were eyeing those two early ronnie would have had more holes created. The playcalling is what i believe wrecked that game. the skill was there from cpepp but chambers and mcmike had an off day. that shouldn't happen too often this year.

 

[Rich22]

hard to do when our best deep threat is double covered and one of those guys is the best safety in the NFL

I think there is more to the deep ball than the fastest guy on the field races 50 yds. It's about mismatches and getting separation IMO. Booker can get deep. That is also why you need another WR to stretch the field. You can't have all possession guys or 2 TE sets 2-3 downs a series. Now Pitt was different in that I don't think we could afford 4 wide sets because of their pass rush although it certainly would have forced Hair Bag Troy out of the box. TP was in the box most of the game not covering deep. The Vikes with C-Pep played alot of 3 and 4 WR sets. Spread out the D and let C-Pep find the mismatch. We play too tight IMO. 2 TE's and a FB lets the safeties come into the box. Spread them out - you can still take a 3 step quick drop and throw if you have a mismatch on the line BUT it will prevent 8 men blitzing in. We only have 5 WR's on the darn roster but we have what 11 DL guys.

 

[Omni]

Even if they throw deep, there were two times Culpepper tosses it to Chambers and it was so Frerrotte-ish and underthrown it was hard to fathom. With all that arm strength youd think he'd put it over Chambers head instead of holding him up and letting the CB's and Safety's get to him.

 

[cltchperf]

I think part of it is also Culpepper and his knee. He looks good, and he seems to be feeling better ad more confident each game, but it seems like he doesn't completely step into his throws, because of him being not 100% sure all the time. Stepping, and planting are important for the deep balls, and I think with each week and him feeling better and getting more comfortablke with his knee you will see Culpepper throwing like his self again.

 

[ckparrothead]

He'll throw deep balls once in a while. As ckparrothead keeps saying, we threw the ball deep with Frerotte to establish the deep threat to opposing defenses and keep them from stacking the box. With Culpepper, defenses already believe in our deep threat, and the danger is throwing too much.

Except for all my hot air, the Steelers did not respect our deep game early. They came at us with PRESSURE and with constant 8 man fronts.

So yes, we should have been throwing deep more...but we never found the time against their pressure packages.

The unfortunate situation as it stands is that Miami has done little to the receivers group to increase our deep efficacy. And, I can understand why (hands tied)...that's the unfortunate part. Not accusing them of anything.

Hagan, though fast, is not necessarily a deep threat. I'd love to let that prove out on the field, no need to pidgeon-hole the dude before he gets a chance, but he's got a lot of tape in college suggesting hey, I'm not as good deep even though I've got the speed to get there.

Kelly Campbell was SUPPOSED to help us stretch the field...but he couldn't make the team. Wes Welker is not an effective deep threat on the outside. He is strictly a threat in the deep middle.

So we're back to the game we had in 2005...Booker ending up a de facto deep threat just because nobody bothers to cover him deep, Chambers getting a fair amount of attention, Welker for the deep middle, etc. I guess like I said, I'd like to see Hagan given the chance to go deep because heck, ya never know til ya try.

And the Steelers are showing that yeah...Culpepper may have bought credibility on the deep ball in the past with Moss helping him but we're gonna let him PROVE IT with Chambers before we give those two the same treatment.

To prove it, we HAVE to throw it deep! Mularkey did not do this against the Steelers. It was one of the things that was a double-edged sword. It helped us stay IN the game by completing more passes...but it also helped us LOSE the game by making our passing attack predictable in the end.

 

[ASCII]

hopefully culpepper can put a little more mustard on his down field throws

 

[DolfanISS]

Funny, I think we should dink and dunk more often. Our skill players are very good when they get the ball and made some nice runs on some short passes. When we relied on the intermediate and deep stuff the INT's stared pouring in. We need more screen and swing passes to Ronnie Brown.

 

[dolfanmark]

Daunte didn't have enough time to throw deep against Pittsburgh.

 

[dwalsh]

As a Jet fan, i hope Saban doesnt open up the playbook and allow Culpepper to throw the deep ball.

But as a football fan, i think that the Dolphins should eventually spread out the offense (4 or 5 wide) and have two deep routes, and a few underneath routes. With Culpepper at QB (if he can return to his prime), Chris Chambers as a deep thread, Randy McMicheal at TE, Ronnie Brown at RB, and now Wes Welker as a shifty little runner, i think that the Dolphins offense could be very powerful; IF Saban and the OC allow them too

 

[Canadianfishfan]

There are alot of teams that are following the Pats screen philosophy. I'm seeing alot of screens where the offense are designed to put the onus on players to make plays. Short passes... and go earn the yards. i think we'll see more deep balls against Buffalo if the O-line can provide protection. If we get no running game happening ... then goodbye play action. which is critical.
Buffalo is also a blitz crazy team. We have to EARN the deep threat respect. we can't just assume it will be great because we have Daunte. We know the O-line has alot of say on how long we have to let plays develop. I say at least 4 seconds. For DEEEP passes.
Bills have the same problem.. but I expect them to test us sooner and more often. Don't forget they must be still stinging from that massive comeback we had last year... double that with the NE game last week. Let's show some respect. And concentrate on what WE have to do to win... instead of slagging the Bills. Damn Bills.