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Let me get this straight about Jason Allen?

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The only position he is comfortable playing is behind Reynaldo Hill, the only guy that hasn't been beat this year? If this is true this is clearly a mistake by saban.
 
I still say give the kid some time. Yet at the same time I am beginning to wonder. As bad as our safety issues are you would think a 1st round pick could contribute something by this time.
 
SoDakDolfan said:
I still say give the kid some time. Yet at the same time I am beginning to wonder. As bad as our safety issues are you would think a 1st round pick could contribute something by this time.
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Exactly. This season is about as close to a wash as it's gonna get without most fans actually saying it is. Play the kid and get him some experience because we're gonna need it in the future.
 
After hearing what I posted I am pissed at Saban not Jason Allen.
 
Polamalou didn't start his first year for the Steelers and look how he turned out.

Not every safety starts out playing like Sean Taylor or Roy Williams....
 
We need to not obsess with Jason Allen. As bad as our secondary is if our coaching staff is too pigheaded to put him in he must really suck.
 
What bothers me the most is that every other 1st rounder except Jay Cutler has either started or got some playing time. Why did we draft this guy? What makes him so special that we had to pick him at 16 with Cromartie, Lawson, Carpenter, Holes, and Chad Jackson still on the board. We could have gotten any of these guys and they would have been playing. Why did we get a guy with a bad hip insted of someone who can contribute more than special teams.
 
tcdrover said:
Polamalou didn't start his first year for the Steelers and look how he turned out.

Not every safety starts out playing like Sean Taylor or Roy Williams....
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Polamalu did play and have an impact his first year on blitzes and STs. He got better throughout his rookie year so JAllen does have a chance to catch up. But Polamalu definitely showed something as a rookie something Allen has yet to do.
 
tcdrover said:
Polamalou didn't start his first year:shakeno: for the Steelers and look how he turned out.

Not every safety starts out playing like Sean Taylor or Roy Williams....
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Troy played 16 games for Pittsburg his first year...SO PLEASE STOP THE CRAP HE DIDN'T START HIS FIRST YEAR ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!:fire:

HE HAD 29 TACKLES WITH 9 ASSISTS AND 2 SACKS HIS 1ST YEAR!!!!!

He ran a 4.35 40,had a 405lb bench press,600lb squat,38 1/2 vertical:eek:

AND DID I SAY HE PLAYED 16 GAMES HIS FIRST YEAR...
 
Mr. Reality said:
We need to not obsess with Jason Allen. As bad as our secondary is if our coaching staff is too pigheaded to put him in he must really suck.
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Rome wasnt built in a day. I know we were all expecting Allen to show up but its not happening. Sad because of the state of our Secondary i agree but maybe later this season he will get his chance.
 
The bottom line is this: A VAST majority of 1st round picks contribute to their team right away. How often have they not? Even players that have been considered busts in the past have at least been on the field playing and contributing in some way or at least been given an opportunity in game situations. Guys are taken in the FIRST ROUND because it is anticipated -NO, expected - that they will be able to step in and play right away. How many times have you heard a coach/GM say they drafted "John Doe" in the first round so they could develop him to be a solid contributor in a couple of years and maybe he'll see some time on special teams?
When I see the people posting things like: "Saban know's what he's doing", "Allen needs time to develop","Give him some time", "blah....blah...blah..." Well, I say horse ****. A first rounder is SUPPOSED to be an immediate impact for the team who drafted him. Allen can't even impact special teams.
I'm willing to give him some time, but if you're not trying to fool yourself, it's easy to see that this was probably a big reach and a big mistake by Saban. Especially when you take into consideration his constant speaches about not reaching for a need when it comes to effecting the team down the road. Saban REACHED and did NOT even come close to taking the best player available like he suggested he would. We passed on some very good players to get a guy who can't beat out our garbage. I was bothered by the pick the day it happened but was willing to give Saban and Allen the benefit of the doubt. Now all I do is doubt it.
 
We are all frustrated by not seeing immediate dividends from Jason Allen.

Saban wants to let Allen focus on 1 position which is the position Renaldo Hill plays. Renaldo Hill hasn't played bad, so Saban doesn't just want to bench him because it wouldn't be fair to Hill.
 
Its so nice to see some of my felloe finfan brothers FINALLY coming around regarding Jason allen being selected so high....

I have been concerned about this for a while now...the whole system arguement is laughable...any guy drafted that high should be in there making some sort of a contribution based on ABILITY..
 
Louis Oliver said:
We are all frustrated by not seeing immediate dividends from Jason Allen.

Saban wants to let Allen focus on 1 position which is the position Renaldo Hill plays. Renaldo Hill hasn't played bad, so Saban doesn't just want to bench him because it wouldn't be fair to Hill.
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The problem is Allen isn't good enough to unseat Hill. If he was better, fair wouldn't even be an issue. The best player plays.
 
SCall13 said:
Guys are taken in the FIRST ROUND because it is anticipated -NO, expected - that they will be able to step in and play right away.
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Where does it say this? By drafting BPA sometimes you get a player that is behind a solid vet. Guys that are taken in the first round and expected to step in right away are usually drafted as needed, not BPA. Think about it.

We passed on some very good players to get a guy who can't beat out our garbage.
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He's stuck behind Hill, who from all accounts is NOT garbage. Where's the beef?
 
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