Let's revisit Tannehill's "QB Camp" Review with Coach Gruden

[nerfball]

[video=youtube_share;vAzebw8cd20]https://youtu.be/vAzebw8cd20?t=18m17s[/video]

Coach Gruden just nails it here. The points he makes to Tannehill are extremely relevant even today, but he didn't mature much past this stage in development for some reason. He still misdiagnosis coverages, stares down targets, get baited into throws, has at times, poor accuracy and anticipation, can't consistently throw receivers open, poor pocket awareness most of the time, and on and on... Some guys respond to the challenge at the next level, figure it out, some don't or can't.

After year 3 I thought we've pretty much seen what we're getting from Tannehill. That's who he is. He needs to be on a team that has a solid defense and running game and let him be a game manager type guy who makes 25-30 pass attempts a game. No more. Maybe he runs a little option play a couple times a game and get you 20 rushing yards and his job beyond that is not to turn the ball over. You can't put him out there to be Aaron Rogers or any other top tier QB. Instead of drafting and building a roster for that, Miami has insisted that Tannehill can be an elite QB and you're seeing those results.

Poor drafting, failure to assemble an o-line worth a damn, failure to find a good running back, failure to field a defense even in the top half of the NFL... the franchise let Tannehill down and vice versa.

 

[DrMom9900]

[video=youtube_share;vAzebw8cd20]https://youtu.be/vAzebw8cd20?t=18m17s[/video]

Coach Gruden just nails it here. The points he makes to Tannehill are extremely relevant even today, but he didn't mature much past this stage in development for some reason. He still misdiagnosis coverages, stares down targets, get baited into throws, has at times, poor accuracy and anticipation, can't consistently throw receivers open, poor pocket awareness most of the time, and on and on... Some guys respond to the challenge at the next level, figure it out, some don't or can't.

After year 3 I thought we've pretty much seen what we're getting from Tannehill. That's who he is. He needs to be on a team that has a solid defense and running game and let him be a game manager type guy who makes 25-30 pass attempts a game. No more. Maybe he runs a little option play a couple times a game and get you 20 rushing yards and his job beyond that is not to turn the ball over. You can't put him out there to be Aaron Rogers or any other top tier QB. Instead of drafting and building a roster for that, Miami has insisted that Tannehill can be an elite QB and you're seeing those results.

Poor drafting, failure to assemble an o-line worth a damn, failure to find a good running back, failure to field a defense even in the top half of the NFL... the franchise let Tannehill down and vice versa.

I think we let him walk to houston

 

[nerfball]

I think we let him walk to houston

But Miller isn't that work horse type back that can carry the load for the offense. My point is that Tannehill should not be the focal point of your offense.

 

[DuderinoN703]

After year 3 I thought we've pretty much seen what we're getting from Tannehill. That's who he is. He needs to be on a team that has a solid defense and running game and let him be a game manager type guy who makes 25-30 pass attempts a game. No more. Maybe he runs a little option play a couple times a game and get you 20 rushing yards and his job beyond that is not to turn the ball over. You can't put him out there to be Aaron Rogers or any other top tier QB. Instead of drafting and building a roster for that, Miami has insisted that Tannehill can be an elite QB and you're seeing those results.

Every QB needs a solid defense and running game. Luck had a great opening game vs. Detroit and Indy still lost. The QB himself needs to actually do things too and more times than not Tannehill doesn't. Combine that with a defense that stinks and you have the **** team we see today.

 

[Sarnics13]

Tannehill had probably his worst performance of his career. Do we need 45 threads started and acting like what we saw last night is what he's always done. I get it...he played very poorly, but good Lord with all the people acting like this is what we have had to watch his whole career. It's just stupid.

Now we will have 3 full days of "see I was right!!". It was a bad game, not a string of them.

 

[cash]

very little improvement since 2014. I bet he's not playing here next season

 

[nerfball]

Tannehill had probably his worst performance of his career. Do we need 45 threads started and acting like what we saw last night is what he's always done. I get it...he played very poorly, but good Lord with all the people acting like this is what we have had to watch his whole career. It's just stupid.

Now we will have 3 full days of "see I was right!!". It was a bad game, not a string of them.

Yes we need threads calling out Tannehill, we need them until people on here stop defending this guy like he's going to magically bloom into an elite QB all of a sudden. Its not going to happen.

 

[slk018]

Tannehill had probably his worst performance of his career. Do we need 45 threads started and acting like what we saw last night is what he's always done. I get it...he played very poorly, but good Lord with all the people acting like this is what we have had to watch his whole career. It's just stupid.

Now we will have 3 full days of "see I was right!!". It was a bad game, not a string of them.

I respectfully disagree

Actually it is the same issues we have seen for his whole career. Many people understand you don't all of the sudden "develop" the intangibles and situational awareness. Too robotic, just bot a smart football player. Sure he will bounce back and some "flashes" but the main concerns continue to show up. Many people who disagree with the top Tannehill fans are told they don't know football, don't watch other QBs and laughed at with "qbwinzzz" as if the qb doesn't play a huge part in wins and losses. We know its a team game, we know the team has been tannanbaumed. But, we recognize the inability to do the little things like move in the pocket, not having the awareness to throw downfield on free plays, check in to a draw on 3rd and 6 and so on.
Wo I would like to ask you, do you watch other qbs play? Do you notice any intangibles or feel for the game from other Qbs that our guy lacks?

 

[flynryan15]

I respectfully disagree

Actually it is the same issues we have seen for his whole career. Many people understand you don't all of the sudden "develop" the intangibles and situational awareness. Too robotic, just bot a smart football player. Sure he will bounce back and some "flashes" but the main concerns continue to show up. Many people who disagree with the top Tannehill fans are told they don't know football, don't watch other QBs and laughed at with "qbwinzzz" as if the qb doesn't play a huge part in wins and losses. We know its a team game, we know the team has been tannanbaumed. But, we recognize the inability to do the little things like move in the pocket, not having the awareness to throw downfield on free plays, check in to a draw on 3rd and 6 and so on.
Wo I would like to ask you, do you watch other qbs play? Do you notice any intangibles or feel for the game from other Qbs that our guy lacks?

Well that sums it up. 4 years of bad play, sprinkled with a little mediocrity. You put Tannehill on the Jets or the Bills and his biggest fans on here would be smashing him.

 

[Dolph N.Fan]

Tannehill had probably his worst performance of his career. Do we need 45 threads started and acting like what we saw last night is what he's always done. I get it...he played very poorly, but good Lord with all the people acting like this is what we have had to watch his whole career. It's just stupid.

Now we will have 3 full days of "see I was right!!". It was a bad game, not a string of them.

After 5 years his bad games are the norm and his good games are outliers. Just the facts.

 

[Sarnics13]

Yes we need threads calling out Tannehill, we need them until people on here stop defending this guy like he's going to magically bloom into an elite QB all of a sudden. Its not going to happen.

Yeah...we "need" them bc this site and it's members opinion on the QB has so much pull with the Dolphins decision makers. We "need" bc if you change everyone's mind on here that somehow gets him traded or cut?
My point wasn't that you or anyone else doesn't have the right to dislike the guy, it's that every Tom Dick and Harry is going to each start a thread saying the same thing in each.
Hate if you want, I couldn't care less. But do we need 45 threads started today to say it....

 

[nerfball]

Yeah...we "need" them bc this site and it's members opinion on the QB has so much pull with the Dolphins decision makers. We "need" bc if you change everyone's mind on here that somehow gets him traded or cut?
My point wasn't that you or anyone else doesn't have the right to dislike the guy, it's that every Tom Dick and Harry is going to each start a thread saying the same thing in each.
Hate if you want, I couldn't care less. But do we need 45 threads started today to say it....

I guess, for your convenience, we should all post our Tannehill grievances in one thread? Who the hell do you think you are on here? If you don't want to read anti-Tannehill posts then maybe don't click on this thread? Maybe you don't want to be on this site the day after he looked totally inept on the field, on national TV (again)? That's what this site is for, discussion of the Dolphins football team, or am I mistaken?

 

[Sarnics13]

I guess, for your convenience, we should all post our Tannehill grievances in one thread? Who the hell do you think you are on here? If you don't want to read anti-Tannehill posts then maybe don't click on this thread? Maybe you don't want to be on this site the day after he looked totally inept on the field, on national TV (again)? That's what this site is for, discussion of the Dolphins football team, or am I mistaken?

You got me. Your logic has shown me my error in thinking. We need every person that is upset to start their own thread saying what the other 35 are saying also. You each deserve your own attention for starting another thread of your own. I think we should get up to about 50 threads about the QB.

 

[4thAndGoal]

Tannehill had probably his worst performance of his career. Do we need 45 threads started and acting like what we saw last night is what he's always done. I get it...he played very poorly, but good Lord with all the people acting like this is what we have had to watch his whole career. It's just stupid.

Now we will have 3 full days of "see I was right!!". It was a bad game, not a string of them.

I think you mean he has the same performance that he has a majority of the time he plays. He is terrible, and always has been.

 

[nerfball]

You got me. Your logic has shown me my error in thinking. We need every person that is upset to start their own thread saying what the other 35 are saying also. You each deserve your own attention for starting another thread of your own. I think we should get up to about 50 threads about the QB.

Well, if you stop replying then this thread will stop going to the top and would fall off into oblivion. See, that's how it works. The topics people want to talk about bubble to the top. If people didn't want to talk about the QB then the threads would die. You're free to start your own thread to complain about us complaining...