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Mando: Brady is in Decline

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First of all, at some point Tom Brady will not be "Tom Brady". However, Mando does his best to rattle the cage of still one of the best QB's in the NFL. He is still the difference maker in the division. Gronk is a brutal match up on Sunday and Amendola is going to be back.

Mando makes the point that Coyle's defense is similar to the Bengals. However, I think that helps the Pats in that they have recently seen such a scheme.

Anyways, we can return to this thread and bash Mando if he is wrong on Sunday or praise him and bash me if Brady struggles. I still say it is a silly perspective.
 
Don't care if he's in decline or not. It's still Tom Brady and it's still the patriots.
 
Hopefully Mando is correct, but this is the sort of media snippet that will be used to motivate Brady. Don't poke the aging tiger...
 
He's in decline but just where he is at is hard to tell. Gronk obviously presents a match up problem but Amendola is not that much of a concern to me. 16 catches and no TDs in 3 games played and odds are, he isn't one hundred percent and may not be all season. That said, I do think the Pats win this game solely because of the Dolphins penchant for being badly prepared, out coached and repeatedly shooting themselves in the foot with dumb plays.

NE 31
Mia 16
 
But isn't it because he doesn't have "weapons"? :unsure:
 
As far as being a snippet to "motivate" Brady....we act like anyone read Armando...

If he is Decline....I don't think so, the guy is working with a bunch of who dat rookies and poor signings and he is struggling to make it work. He can't help that he has has close to 20 passes dropped and several of his WR do no seem experience enough to make the same reads as Brady. Brady is still Brady and is still one of the 3 best QB's in the NFL.
 
shouright said:
But isn't it because he doesn't have "weapons"? :unsure:
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He isn't at that level anymore where he can win with dime store guys. Losing his 5 top receiving threats has hurt that team immensely so at this point in his career the answer may be yes, he doesn't have weapons.
 
he's missing more throws than he used to...more than last year even...especially balls down the seam...but he's still smart as hell when it comes to recognizing your defense and getting into plays that exploit it

miami should play this game like the jets did last week and not blitz so much...especially with both lbs etc...if they do he'll kill it...depend on these edge pass rushers and individual matchups to win...and of course be ready for gronk to have worked the rust off he showed last week vs the jets

no matter what it's an uphill climb for us...we haven't seen a team go serious up tempo yet but i think i know how it will go when they do...limit em to fgs in the red we got a shot...if not we toast...

exploit their lbs in coverage...they all suck at it
 
MadDog 88 said:
He isn't at that level anymore where he can win with dime store guys. Losing his 5 top receiving threats has hurt that team immensely so at this point in his career the answer may be yes, he doesn't have weapons.
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But then that line of thinking, by extension, would mean that limitations in Ryan Tannehill's ability last year, and not just something about his "weapons," were a big part of the problem. I just find it interesting how the dispositional versus situational explanations tend to flip-flop based on who we're talking about. Sometimes the player himself has the sole responsibility for the problem, and other times the blame gets cast onto everyone around him, depending on who is being talked about.

There is little consistency or thought given to the overall philosophical approach in this regard, it seems. Are players in general more likely to be personally responsible for their own performance, or dependent on those around them for it? If it's the former, then it should be very rare that we invoke a situational explanation for someone's play in general.
 
shouright said:
But then that line of thinking, by extension, would mean that limitations in Ryan Tannehill's ability last year, and not just something about his "weapons," were a big part of the problem. I just find it interesting how the dispositional versus situational explanations tend to flip-flop based on who we're talking about. Sometimes the player himself has the sole responsibility for the problem, and other times the blame gets cast onto everyone around him, depending on who is being talked about.

There is little consistency or thought given to the overall philosophical approach in this regard, it seems. Are players in general more likely to be personally responsible for their own performance, or dependent on those around them for it? If it's the former, then it should be very rare that we invoke a situational explanation for someone's play in general.
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I knew you'd go here and you're wasting your time trying to compare Tannehill with arguably the best to ever play the game.
 
Massive Difference between a 14 year (HoF) vet and a Rookie QB (which Tannehil was last year)....
 
ConvenientTruth said:
Massive Difference between a 14 year (HoF) vet and a Rookie QB (which Tannehil was last year)....
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Sure, so the dispositional explanations (i.e., the player's individual ability) should be more likely for the rookie player, and the situational explanations (i.e., "weapons") should be more likely for the HoF player, yet that has been flip-flopped here. We're explaining the rookie's performance with "weapons," and the HoF player's performance with a decline in his own ability.
 
shouright said:
Sure, so the dispositional explanations (i.e., the player's individual ability) should be more likely for the rookie player, and the situational explanations (i.e., "weapons") should be more likely for the HoF player, yet that has been flip-flopped here. We're explaining the rookie's performance with "weapons," and the HoF player's performance with a decline in his own ability.
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Actually I said it was his weapons...or lack there of...

ConvenientTruth said:
As far as being a snippet to "motivate" Brady....we act like anyone read Armando...

If he is Decline....I don't think so, the guy is working with a bunch of who dat rookies and poor signings and he is struggling to make it work. He can't help that he has has close to 20 passes dropped and several of his WR do no seem experience enough to make the same reads as Brady. Brady is still Brady and is still one of the 3 best QB's in the NFL.
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Just a dumb article...almost as dumb as when Mando said we would go 10-6 in 2007. Unreal.
 
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