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Phinmaster1354
Practice Squad
TACKLE DEPTH???
I disagree, it wasn't hard to be much better that that group last year!! As for this year, I'm sorry I just don't feel comfortable with the O-LINE Especially the depth at TACKLE!!! BRENT SMITH went down, now you have alot of GREEN , UNPROVEN players!! Games are won in the trenches and I am just a bit concerned!!!
chevysales
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Re: It has more to do with RW's than the OL...
i think thats ridiculous.
you need talent up front and confidence.
well which offensive coach told you that one? gary stevens :)
i think thats ridiculous.
you need talent up front and confidence.
Re: It has more to do with RW's than the OL...
I've herd you say this before and I have to put my two cents in here. I can see where a very good line might look Great because of the Rb, but not make the line, period.
One quote that stands out in my mind to kind of counter yours is that "the game of football is won in the trenches".
To be a real good line might not require everyone of them to be probowlers but the one thing they must do is Gell together as one, knowing each partners every move..... his strengths and weaknesses.
Having that Rb that can take them to the next level surely helps, but not a line does he make. :)
I've herd you say this before and I have to put my two cents in here. I can see where a very good line might look Great because of the Rb, but not make the line, period.
One quote that stands out in my mind to kind of counter yours is that "the game of football is won in the trenches".
To be a real good line might not require everyone of them to be probowlers but the one thing they must do is Gell together as one, knowing each partners every move..... his strengths and weaknesses.
Having that Rb that can take them to the next level surely helps, but not a line does he make. :)
ckparrothead
Premium Member
Depends. If you consider the San Diego OL "made" (when did this turn into the Sopranos?) then the original statement is correct because there's no doubt that LaDainian Tomlinson "made" that OL. But I personally don't consider that OL to be "made". I consider that LT ran for a lot of yards and caught a lot of balls behind one of the worst OLs in the league...largely thanks to LT being really good, and largely thanks to Norv Turner.
I think in today's NFL for the most part you can tell when a RB is having success "despite" his OL, and when a RB is having success "because of" his OL. The only x factor is like Ricky said where a good RB helps an OL's confidence because they know they don't have to make their blocks perfect in order for him to gain yards...if they keep puttin too much pressure on themselves they might choke and screw up the block and all it takes usually is one bad OL block to make a play not happen. Gotta crawl and walk before ya run.
The Denver OL was as good as it was for one reason alone. The OL coach. Widely respected as the best OL coach in the biz...PERIOD.
I think in today's NFL for the most part you can tell when a RB is having success "despite" his OL, and when a RB is having success "because of" his OL. The only x factor is like Ricky said where a good RB helps an OL's confidence because they know they don't have to make their blocks perfect in order for him to gain yards...if they keep puttin too much pressure on themselves they might choke and screw up the block and all it takes usually is one bad OL block to make a play not happen. Gotta crawl and walk before ya run.
The Denver OL was as good as it was for one reason alone. The OL coach. Widely respected as the best OL coach in the biz...PERIOD.
Phinmaster1354
Practice Squad
CUTBLOCKS!!
Don't forget about DENVER'S INFAMOUS CUTBLOCKS!!! Who knows how many knees and ankles they took over that 5or 6 year span until now!!Their OL COACH teaches thisblocking technique all the time!! I know they got BRYAN COX last year and I recall JIMMY bringing it to the LEAGUE OFFICIAL'S attention before the 99' opener against the BRONCOS!! Irony here is the knee injuries to DAVIS and GARY!!! What goes around comes around I guess!!!
Don't forget about DENVER'S INFAMOUS CUTBLOCKS!!! Who knows how many knees and ankles they took over that 5or 6 year span until now!!Their OL COACH teaches thisblocking technique all the time!! I know they got BRYAN COX last year and I recall JIMMY bringing it to the LEAGUE OFFICIAL'S attention before the 99' opener against the BRONCOS!! Irony here is the knee injuries to DAVIS and GARY!!! What goes around comes around I guess!!!
ckparrothead
Premium Member
They did legal cutblocks. It was brought to the leagues attention and the league refused to crack down on them. They tightened the rule a little bit, and the Denver OL STILL hardly ever got called for it and still were awesome. They got Bryan Cox AFTER the Denver OL coach left the team. He's been retired for over a year now. He was a damn great OL coach and I wish we had him in Miami.
chevysales
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yea what ozzy said.
i hate to agree with oliver {and won't this time :)}
then i go and read the miami herald today and what does tony wise say? the same thing oliver said.
i hate to agree with oliver {and won't this time :)}
then i go and read the miami herald today and what does tony wise say? the same thing oliver said.