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Marino and Tannehill- Divergent Paths to Greatness

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The Ryan Tannehill story is still being written. In fact, it may only be prologue to date. We may be in the midst, or on the cusp, of a great Dolphin career unfolding. Appreciate the moment, or at the very least enjoy the hope and the possibilities. I mean, why not?

BACKDROP:

1A.
Dan Marino was a premier collegiate QB, a four-year starter for a perennial top 5 Pitt, with a national championship. He projected to be one of the top picks of the 1983 draft, but he slipped to No. 27 where he was considereda steal by the Dolphins.


1B.
Ryan Tannehill was an under-the-radar college QB who served his time in waiting as a WR before putting up solid but not spectacular numbers in his jr. and sr. seasons for a good but not great A&M team. He was picked #8 by the Dolphins in a debatable if not controversial move that many considered a reach.



2A.
In the Dolphins’ six preceding seasons ’77-‘82, they went 57-29-1, finishing 1[SUP]st[/SUP] or 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] in their Division in 5 of the 6 years. They were coming off a Super Bowl in 1982 when they drafted Marino. Their head coach was the legendary Don Shula, who would be Marino’s coach for his entire career.


2B. The Dolphins went 38-58 from ’06-’11, finishing 1
[SUP]st[/SUP]
or 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] in their Division only once, four years earlier. New head coach was Joe Philbin, who would be fired a few seasons later.



3A.
Marino set the NFL on fire, making 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] team All Pro in his rookie year 1983. He was NFL MVP in 1984 with a QBR of 108.9, along with first team All Pro in’84, ’85, ’86. His lone Super Bowl was 1984 season. He would make 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] team All Pro in ’94 and ’95. Division Champs in ’83, ’84, ’85 and ’92. Wild Card berths in ’90, ’94, ’95, ’97 and ’98. Made it to AFC Championship game in 1985 and 1992, both losses. 4-2 record in Wild Card games, 3-5 record in Division playoffs, 1-2 record in AFC Championshipgames, 0-1 Super Bowl.


3B.
Tannehill led his team to a Wild Card playoff berth for first time in his 5[SUP]th[/SUP] year.



4A.
Marino played his first 5 seasons with a very good offensive line, and was sacked only 73 times. He also was great in the pocket and had a very quick release.


4B.
Tannehill’s OL was suspect at best, and arguably terrible in pass protection. Despite being a more mobile QB than Marino, RT has not shown the same release or pocket presence as Marino. RT sacked 213 times.


TANNEHILL’S ASCENSION:


5A. Marino’s first two years, he had a QBR average of 102.4. The next three years his QBR average was 87.5. His 5[SUP]th[/SUP] year QBR was 89.2 and he would finish with a career regularseason QBR average of 86.4.

5B.
Tannehills’s first two years, he had a QBR average of 78.9. The next three years his QBR average was 91.7. His 5[SUP]th[/SUP] year QBR was 93.5 .



6A.
Marino’s total yards through year 5 were 19,422 for a 273.5yds/game average. His TD/INT was168/80. His YPA yrs 1-5: 7.5, 9.0, 7.3, 7.6, 7.3. for an average of 7.7 with a completion rate of 60.6%. Marino’s completion rate in year 5 was 59.2%, and his career rate was 59.4%.



6B.
Tannehill’s yards through year 5 were 18,455 with 239.7 yds/game average. His TD/INT was 106/66. His YPA yrs 1-5: 6.8, 6.7, 6.9, 7.2, 7.7 for an average of 7.1 with a completion rate of 62.7%. Tannehill’s completion rate in year 5 was 67.1%. Tannehill’s YPA has increased steadily, by .2 in year three, .3 in yr four, and by .5 in yr five.



7A.
Marino rushed for a total of 6 yards, with 3 TDs, and 33 fumbles in years 1-5.


7B.
Tannehill rushedfor 1,065 yards, 6 TDs, and 47 fumbles in years 1-5.





Marino was an amazing quarterback with an incredible career, especially in his first three or four years.
After his MVP and Super Bowl year 2, the Dolphins would win their Division and play for the AFC Championship the next year (a loss). They would win their Division and make it back to the AFC Championship game only once more (1992) in the last 14 years of his career.


Ryan Tannehill by comparison had a very rough first three or four years, although flashing signs of brilliance along the way. With questionable coaching and suspect line protection limiting his effectiveness, Tannehill has nevertheless been able to elevate his game progressively each season while displaying a rare toughness and durability.

2016 brought a new coaching regime and seemed to signal the start of a new chapter in the Tannehill story. It became evident that the Dolphins had a blossoming talent on their hands. By Ryan Tannehill’s own admission the game had finally slowed down for him by the Cardinal game of 2016 and he was in complete control of things for maybe the first time in his career when his season suddenly was ended by a blow to the knee.

With a recovery from his injury, the full support of a coach who appears to be an excellent quarterback coach and who is on his own upward trajectory, and an apparent commitment from the front office to secure the talent and protection to surround him, the stars finally appear aligned for Ryan Tannehill.
The landscape ahead appears primed for the Dolphins to approach, and maybe achieve, the highest pinnacle of success in the NFL. If and when that happens, it will be a contrast of paths taken in the careers of these two warriors

 
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What? A Tannehill supporter on Finheaven? Blasphemy........LOL! Seriously well done, one can only hope and pray.
 
GOOD LORD

Not sure how you can compare the two when the NFL is much easier to pass in due to the rules today
Corner backs could man handle wide receivers in the Marino era and Marino still thrived.
Marino was special, A QB that defines an era.

I'm old enough "not sure if that's a good thing" but I've seen Marino and Tannehill play
MAKE NO MISTAKE, TANNEHILL IS NO MARINO
 
comparing thill17 to marino is shamed. You must real like this qb.....A avg qb in today nfl game.
 
At this point in time, this is the equivalent of the Colts comparing Luck to Peyton Manning
 
QB's like Marino and Elway could throw as many interceptions as touchdowns in certain seasons and still be seen as elite. These days, the TD/INT ratios are minuscule for the great quarterbacks. And they're throwing it more than ever these days.
 
comparing thill17 to marino is shamed. You must real like this qb.....A avg qb in today nfl game. one qb is great... The other is unk in nfl.
 
Jeez, some of you need to calm down. Comparing two QBs (or ANYTHING) is not claiming they are equal.

The point of the post was that the RT story is still unfolding, that he may have the opportunity to accomplish great things, and that if he does- his path will appear completely different from the one Marino blazed. If that hurts you, I can't really help you there.
 
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Ay yay yay.

Dan Marino was a great quarterback. One of a kind great. Then he got hurt a lot and sports medicine then wasn't what sports medicine is now.

Don't think these two guys ought to be compared right now.
 
what is it with people being offended by comparisons. i can compare Marino to Andy Dalton. maybe i will.
 
I hope Tannehill keeps improving, he could become the QB many on here think he is. Dan Marino was the ultimate competitor, he demanded the most out of himself and teammates. Do not see that fire from Tannehill.
 
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