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BREAKING: Mark Duper is the latest exNFL star to test positive for signs of CTE, the former Miami Dolphin confirms to CBS.

Pray for Duper. Rough week in Dolphin-land...

Anyone else starting to feel guilty for watching this game?
 
All the years of recreational drug use probably had nothing to do with it.
I don't recall him taking that many vicious hits. I guess it is cumulative through out his football life.
I do hope that he is able to manage his condition and have some quality of life going forward.
 
One of my most vivid childhood memories is Duper with a juggling catch down the sideline. Best of luck to him.
 
He and Jason Taylor are my favorite Fins of all time.
 
I am pretty sure Zach Thomas will be diagnosed with CTE down the road... :(
 
Pray for Duper. Rough week in Dolphin-land...

Anyone else starting to feel guilty for watching this game?

No. All sport inflicts damage on the people who participate in it, be it head trauma or bad ankles or hips or shoulders or backs, all of which can cause pain throughout life. If it was not dangerous or extreme it wouldn't hold our interest. What's left to do is not make it needlessly dangerous. And to always fight for the participants to get paid more than management.

This last part deserves special attention. I can't tell you how disgusted it made me to see people call the players greedy in the CBA negotiations. To see people hold up the owners, who's investments are secure and who risk nothing in body or soul, as their champions. How hollow that is. How lacking in empathy. I suppose it's easier to think of the players as faceless meat bags throwing themselves at each other, but they're not. How about we as the audience who are entertained by their sacrifices at least support them in getting the biggest slice of our money?

Muhammad Ali has always said that even if boxing gave him Parkinson's, he doesn't regret doing it. Without it, he said, he'd just have become a house painter in Louisville like his father was. It reminds me of Errol Flynn's comment about why he drank so much and lived so wildly. "I intend to live the first half of my life," he said. "I don't care about the rest."

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I am pretty sure Zach Thomas will be diagnosed with CTE down the road... :(

I'm surprised he already hasn't been. I've heard him say in interviews that his short term memory has already started to go.
 
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Pray for Duper. Rough week in Dolphin-land...

Anyone else starting to feel guilty for watching this game?

Very guilty. We now know this isn't just about torn ligaments, broken bones, and having problems walking. The effects of playing this game are even more devastating than we thought. I wouldn't be surprised if I saw this game move to two hand touch at some point. Seriously. I love football but there's no way I'd play in the NFL if I had the opportunity given all the information I have at my disposal now. I've always felt that way but even more so recently. I wouldn't want my children playing football, either.
 
No. All sport inflicts damage on the people who participate in it, be it head trauma or bad ankles or hips or shoulders or backs, all of which can cause pain throughout life. If it was not dangerous or extreme it wouldn't hold our interest. What's left to do is not make it needlessly dangerous. And to always fight for the participants to get paid more than management.

This last part deserves special attention. I can't tell you how disgusted it made me to see people call the players greedy in the CBA negotiations. To see people hold up the owners, who's investments are secure and who risk nothing in body or soul, as their champions. How hollow that is. How lacking in empathy. I suppose it's easier if the players are just meat bags throwing themselves at each other, but they're not. How about we as the audience who are entertained by their sacrifices at least support them in getting the biggest slice of our money?

Muhammad Ali has always said that even if boxing gave him Parkinson's, he does regret doing it. Without it, he said, he'd just have become a house painter in Louisville like his father was. It reminds me of Errol Flynn's comment about why he drank so much and lived so wildly. "I intend to live the first half of my life," he said. "I don't care about the rest."

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I'm surprised he already hasn't been. I've heard him say in interviews that his short term memory has already started to go.

So true. This expectation that the players should "be lucky to have the God given talent to play the game" is ridiculous. "I would've played for 1% of that money!" etc...as if they just woke up one day with that talent. No jackass. While you were chasing girls and fooling around, they were in the gym working on their craft, becoming the top 1% of the 1% in the world at what they do. I always ask people who think like that, "What do you do that commands a million dollar salary?" Always blank stares...always.

Yet, I don't remember hearing that when hockey players were in negotiations. Only football and basketball. Just something to consider.
 
Very guilty. We now know this isn't just about torn ligaments, broken bones, and having problems walking. The effects of playing this game are even more devastating than we thought. I wouldn't be surprised if I saw this game move to two hand touch. Seriously. I love football but there's no way I'd play in the NFL if I had the opportunity given all the information I have at my disposal now. I wouldn't want my children playing football, either.

I think part of the issue is the LENGTH of their careers... It's not just the time playing NFL football, its high school football, college football too. Some of these guys are sustaining these small collisions on a daily basis, several months out of the year, for going on 20 years...

I've heard some interesting, out of the box solutions to the problem...

1.) Get rid of the helmet: Rugby players do not seem to have these same issues because they don't launch at each other with their heads or else they will get a busted noggin.
2.) get rid of specialized units: If all players had to play on both sides of the ball, endurance would become an issue, and the speed of the game would naturally slow down, causing less vicious collisions due to speed.

But neither of these will happen. The game will change though. Maybe some new technology will come around to solve the problem...
 
Not hearing that from who? I don't follow you.

What I mean is I don't remember hearing any detractors calling the hockey players greedy.

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I think part of the issue is the LENGTH of their careers... It's not just the time playing NFL football, its high school football, college football too. Some of these guys are sustaining these small collisions on a daily basis, several months out of the year, for going on 20 years...

I've heard some interesting, out of the box solutions to the problem...

1.) Get rid of the helmet: Rugby players do not seem to have these same issues because they don't launch at each other with their heads or else they will get a busted noggin.

2.) get rid of specialized units: If all players had to play on both sides of the ball, endurance would become an issue, and the speed of the game would naturally slow down, causing less vicious collisions due to speed.

But neither of these will happen. The game will change though. Maybe some new technology will come around to solve the problem...

Excellent point. I've said this for a long time. Hardly anyone will launch with their head with a leather helmet on.
 
I read an article that studied brain disease and they found that some/most (to be honest, I don't remember the percentage) of people who play football from a young age (jr high/highschool/etc) have already developed beginning stages of brain disease BEFORE they enter the NFL.
 
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