Market for Matt Moore Heating Up

[Casas9425]

Best time to trade Moore would be around the trade deadline. Keep him stashed on the bench until then.

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Why in such a hurry to rid ourselves of our team MVP from last year?? :crazy:

Keep him, use him; Garrard's durability status is an unknown; we NEED two veterans to insure that Tannehill doesn't get thrown to the wolves should one of them break/suck.

We'd like to go 7-9 or 8-8, not 3-13.

He doesn't fit the offense anymore and he was never any good to begin with.

 

[CANDolphan]

I have no idea why people seem to think his trade value would be highest at the deadline. It works both ways. If Miami is willing to deal him, teams can say "Well you can keep him if you want a 5th"

Teams would rather Moore come in and actually have time to learn the offense, and produce for them. By the time a guy like Moore arrives at the trade deadline (week 8, mind you) you have teams that would otherwise be interested likely looking at a top draft pick. Why ruin that by shelling out a 6th for him? He's on the last year of his contract. If you truly view Moore as an upgrade, wait until the end of the season (a mere 9 weeks away, remember!) and sign the guy after his contract expires. It's simple business.

His prime trade time would be within the next 2 weeks. No doubt in my mind. If a team like Arizona truly believes they can take the division with anything resembling average to above average QB play and they view Moore as an upgrade to Skelton and Kolb (he is) then you fire off that 4th/5th round pick, you get him the playbook and you keep your fingers crossed.

 

[CedarPhin]

His market's heating up??? How can this be? Just last week, Robi, you assured us that Moore was going to be cut.

Next thing you're going to tell me, that the Easter Bunny's not real, either.

 

[Drfletcherdc]

I'm sorry but our season is worth a lot more than getting a 6th round draft pick. Our qb situation is worth a lot more than a 53rd person on the roster and for less than 3 million, Moore should be a Dolphin the entire year and maybe back as a back up next year.

 

[CedarPhin]

I have no idea why people seem to think his trade value would be highest at the deadline. It works both ways. If Miami is willing to deal him, teams can say "Well you can keep him if you want a 5th"

Teams would rather Moore come in and actually have time to learn the offense, and produce for them. By the time a guy like Moore arrives at the trade deadline (week 8, mind you) you have teams that would otherwise be interested likely looking at a top draft pick. Why ruin that by shelling out a 6th for him? He's on the last year of his contract. If you truly view Moore as an upgrade, wait until the end of the season (a mere 9 weeks away, remember!) and sign the guy after his contract expires. It's simple business.

His prime trade time would be within the next 2 weeks. No doubt in my mind. If a team like Arizona truly believes they can take the division with anything resembling average to above average QB play and they view Moore as an upgrade to Skelton and Kolb (he is) then you fire off that 4th/5th round pick, you get him the playbook and you keep your fingers crossed.

If he gets traded, I'd think it would be after the 3rd preseason game. 4th's just a glorified "Don't get anyone hurt" type affair. I suspect if he's moved, it's going to be between the 3rd and 4th games.

 

[CANDolphan]

If he gets traded, I'd think it would be after the 3rd preseason game. 4th's just a glorified "Don't get anyone hurt" type affair. I suspect if he's moved, it's going to be between the 3rd and 4th games.

That's my exact mindset as well. I figured he'd be traded right before the 3rd preseason game, but right after (say... he showcases a little something?) would make sense as well.

Also, Matt Moore will not be back in Miami after this season. No way he re-signs for anything we offer. Some team will need a QB and he will be the #2 go to free agent. (Behind Garrard of course)

 

[Shaman]

Whom would be willing to take him, exactly? He won't be poached. Give me a break. This site's obssession with fringe players is disgusting. It's like if a team QBd by Matt Moore with Anthony Fasano and Richie Incognito went against Pat Devlin, Les Brown and Nate Garner you'd have people claiming that the latter was MUCH more talented!

If someone were to poach him they'd have to put him on their 53 man roster. Not sure why anyone would be willing to do that with a QB that's probably still pretty green.

 

[CedarPhin]

That's my exact mindset as well. I figured he'd be traded right before the 3rd preseason game, but right after (say... he showcases a little something?) would make sense as well.

Also, Matt Moore will not be back in Miami after this season. No way he re-signs for anything we offer. Some team will need a QB and he will be the #2 go to free agent. (Behind Garrard of course)

I agree. I think Garrard stays as a backup to Tannehill. Moore's got some years to play though, so I could see him parlaying his bit of success during his cup of coffee here into a bigger contract with another QB strapped/starved team.

 

[CANDolphan]

I agree. I think Garrard stays as a backup to Tannehill. Moore's got some years to play though, so I could see him parlaying his bit of success during his cup of coffee here into a bigger contract with another QB strapped/starved team.

I felt the same way until I read that report that Garrard received interest from multiple NFL teams but went to Miami simply because he felt he had the best chance to start. That, along with the contract he received (likely as a result of his request) seems to point to me that he feels he can still be a starter in this league, and it will only reinforce that belief if he performs well enough.

And he's right. If he has a decent year (let's say performs around top 15) then he will get a nice 2 year 15 million dollar contract somewhere. Likely a team like New York, as ironic as that might sound. My thinking behind that is that they won't be bad enough to draft top 5, but they will draft around 14-16, and with a guy you get for QB there you typically want him to learn from somewhere else

 

[KTOWNFINFAN]

I have no idea why people seem to think his trade value would be highest at the deadline. It works both ways. If Miami is willing to deal him, teams can say "Well you can keep him if you want a 5th"

Teams would rather Moore come in and actually have time to learn the offense, and produce for them. By the time a guy like Moore arrives at the trade deadline (week 8, mind you) you have teams that would otherwise be interested likely looking at a top draft pick. Why ruin that by shelling out a 6th for him? He's on the last year of his contract. If you truly view Moore as an upgrade, wait until the end of the season (a mere 9 weeks away, remember!) and sign the guy after his contract expires. It's simple business.

His prime trade time would be within the next 2 weeks. No doubt in my mind. If a team like Arizona truly believes they can take the division with anything resembling average to above average QB play and they view Moore as an upgrade to Skelton and Kolb (he is) then you fire off that 4th/5th round pick, you get him the playbook and you keep your fingers crossed.

I have to respectfully disagree. You are assuming that all GMs make good decisions under pressure situations. Think back to when we gave a freaking 2nd rd pick for AJ Feeley who is NO WHERE NEAR as good as Moore. If a team loses a starting QB with very little to back him up a GM may make a bad decision and offer more than a 4th. Moore is worth more than a 4th to US so why give him up for less. You assume that these other teams are going to know that we are looking to shop him, which we really wouldn't be doing.

I say keep Moore unless a team is willing to offer us a deal we can't refuse (3rd or high 4th, or 4th & 6th). As for Devlin I totally agree. There is ZERO chance a team is going to poach him unless he really lights it up in preseason.

I really like Moore and am still not sure he can't be a solid WCO QB once he gets some time. He outplayed DG during the scrimage playing with the 2s vs the number 1 defense. Lets watch a few preseason games before we even decide Moore isn't the starter. Then we will know more about whether or not he can be a backup next year to RT. Hopefully Moore gets better with the WCO and since he is younger can sign a backup contract next year and stick around. DG has only a few years left and wants to be a starter.

 

[dolpns13]

6th rounder? Screw that. Somebody is going to have an injury or emergency situation in preseason or early in the season. Then if our qb situation warrants , we can trade him for more than that. That being said, I'm still hopeful Moore will shine in the preseason games and be our starter.

Completely agree. He's worth way more to us than a 6th round pick. 4th.

 

[Fearthephins34]

He's worth more to us than a 5th. I'm not saying his market value is greater, but it's not worth giving up a known reliable qb for a 5th when you really don't have a settled qb situation yet. Even if Garrard is clearly better, he's old and one hit away from done.

I'd only consider it if somebody was willing to overpay, like a 4th, or even a 3rd if you get 2 teams in a bidding war.

Not necessarily. He's not in our future plans aka after this year and its questionable whether or not Tannehill should be starting this year.

 

[BG12DM13CP10]

It makes no sense to lose our best quarterback, Devlin, to keep Matt Moore as insurance for this season. That's why we're perenial losers. We think we have talent when we don't, and we can't see it when we have.

 

[LANGER72]

It makes no sense to lose our best quarterback, Devlin, to keep Matt Moore as insurance for this season. That's why we're perenial losers. We think we have talent when we don't, and we can't see it when we have.

When did Devlin become our best QB?..I must have severe memory loss...

 

[CANDolphan]

I have to respectfully disagree. You are assuming that all GMs make good decisions under pressure situations. Think back to when we gave a freaking 2nd rd pick for AJ Feeley who is NO WHERE NEAR as good as Moore. If a team loses a starting QB with very little to back him up a GM may make a bad decision and offer more than a 4th. Moore is worth more than a 4th to US so why give him up for less. You assume that these other teams are going to know that we are looking to shop him, which we really wouldn't be doing.

I say keep Moore unless a team is willing to offer us a deal we can't refuse (3rd or high 4th, or 4th & 6th). As for Devlin I totally agree. There is ZERO chance a team is going to poach him unless he really lights it up in preseason.

I really like Moore and am still not sure he can't be a solid WCO QB once he gets some time. He outplayed DG during the scrimage playing with the 2s vs the number 1 defense. Lets watch a few preseason games before we even decide Moore isn't the starter. Then we will know more about whether or not he can be a backup next year to RT. Hopefully Moore gets better with the WCO and since he is younger can sign a backup contract next year and stick around. DG has only a few years left and wants to be a starter.

I see your point, I really do. I think this is one of those situations we gotta agree to disagree. The funny thing is, there's just as much chance of you being right as there is myself, and either way, we both win! haha

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It makes no sense to lose our best quarterback, Devlin, to keep Matt Moore as insurance for this season. That's why we're perenial losers. We think we have talent when we don't, and we can't see it when we have.

Please don't take this as an insult but why are you so convinced Pat Devlin is our best quarterback when every single coach who has been around him day after day seems to think otherwise?