Marvez: Dolphins lucky to get Hickey, Lazor, and Benton
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Lucked is the perfect word for this team landing Hickey nobody else wanted the GM job.
And that was lucky for us. I think Hickey and Philbin are on the same page as far as personnel.
I will say this to all those who blamed Philbin under Ireland when it was clearly Ireland that screwed up draft after draft. I heard a recent interview with Ted Thompson, the Packers GM. He said he does all the drafting for the Packers, the Packers have only 5 players who were free agent signings...the rest of the roster are all draft picks. They asked Mike McCarthy how much input he has in the draft he said none...they asked him how much he'd like to have he said none. And that's the franchise Philbin came from. I'm sure if they asked Philbin his opinion, or the opinion of any coach on the team, they would offer it but it ultimately comes down to the GM...always has.
I've said this time and again: considering the hole Hickey had to dig out from before becoming proactive, he's done a yeoman's job and within the entire organization, has demonstrated the most prudent decision-making capabilities. If Philbin gets the boot, which is looking more unlikely, Ross should allow Hickey to hire the next HC cuz at this point there's no one in this organization whose decision-making I trust even close to his. They're right about Sherman and Turner.. so kudos to Ross for that... cuz the mind boggles over what might have been if Philbin wasn't force fed changes. I do resent still that apparently he hired Lazor but forbid him to fire/hire his own offensive people, sticking him with Zach Taylor, a totally unqualified QB coach. Fortunately it looks like Lazor has effectively demoted him by creating busy work, and taken over the development of Tannehill. I think we can see the difference and speculate just when that occurred. I can live with Philbin if it means retaining Hickey who to me is the most important piece in the franchise's progression. However, I'm not happy with how he would have kept Sherman, sacrificing his due diligence at the expense of the team or with his dubious game calls which IMO have cost us at least 1 if not 2 victories.
As far as Hickey being a fallback choice - well like the old saying goes: "Sometimes the best choice is the decision you don't make." I couldn't be happier with the outcome.
As far as Hickey being a fallback choice - well like the old saying goes: "Sometimes the best choice is the decision you don't make." I couldn't be happier with the outcome.
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Benton and Lazor were recruited by philbin, there's nothing "luck" about them getting hired.
Marvez remains a clown, a reporter with no sources who has basically become Fox's version of Omar. I really for the life of me don't understand how Mia always gets stuck with these guys.
You really Dont see such low level beat writers for other teams.
Marvez remains a clown, a reporter with no sources who has basically become Fox's version of Omar. I really for the life of me don't understand how Mia always gets stuck with these guys.
You really Dont see such low level beat writers for other teams.
exactly this
Hickey, Lazor, and Bentonit weren't found at the end of a rainbow, philbin brought these people in.
Luck lol GTFO
roy_miami
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In 2012 Philbin could walk around Miami like his **** didn't stink even despite the 7-9 record. Just a year later he's considered a leper. Keep on keepin' on you bunch of fruitloop dinguses!!!
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Marvez is mad, lol
There was some luck involved with Benton. If Gary Kubiak doesn't get fired in Houston...Benton is still their O-line coach. Even if the Texans had hired another WCO/ZBS coach Benton would still be in Houston. We were lucky they hired O'Brien.
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Philbin is responsible for Lazor plain and simple, I still remember the report of Lazor heading to Detroit to be Caldwells OC. Somehow Joe convinced him to choose Ryan and Co. over Stafford and one of the greatest receivers to ever play the game. Joe made his own luck on that one. To say he got lucky is ridiculous, Lazar didn't get on the wrong flight to Miami instead of Detroit.
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Marvez with a positive piece. Wow.
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Marvez is useless. He offers zero insight in general. I listen to him on Joe Rose and he seldom has a nugget that any fan who watches closely wouldn't already know. This is a guy who trashed the Dolphins at every turn and just because the record is better all of a sudden they are great.
How about using your analytical skills and project before hand how things can progress? Looking in the rear view mirror is intellectually weak. In academia, such things are written off as "review" articles. The how and why, and of course the projection, are much harder to do. Marvez has none of that. So, what good is he?
As far as Hickey, there were early reports that Hickey hit his first interview "out of the park" and he was listed as an early favorite. People were shocked because Tampa sucks and still didn't offer him the job. So, media conjecture and laziness led to much of the disenchantment. Dufuses like Lake freaking Dawson were hailed. Jeff Cesario was somehow hailed despite NE's poor drafting in recent years. And we know that tools like LaCanfora were used by agents for people like Ray Farmer to further their own goals, and LaCanfora was either naive and stupid or willingly trying to promote agents' clients to try to get his flawed, agenda-driven information from agents.
It's a bottom line business. At the end of the day, will Hickey get good players and will Miami win. That's all that will matter. It won't matter whether Miami "got lucky" or if they preferred faux leaders like Dawson.
How about using your analytical skills and project before hand how things can progress? Looking in the rear view mirror is intellectually weak. In academia, such things are written off as "review" articles. The how and why, and of course the projection, are much harder to do. Marvez has none of that. So, what good is he?
As far as Hickey, there were early reports that Hickey hit his first interview "out of the park" and he was listed as an early favorite. People were shocked because Tampa sucks and still didn't offer him the job. So, media conjecture and laziness led to much of the disenchantment. Dufuses like Lake freaking Dawson were hailed. Jeff Cesario was somehow hailed despite NE's poor drafting in recent years. And we know that tools like LaCanfora were used by agents for people like Ray Farmer to further their own goals, and LaCanfora was either naive and stupid or willingly trying to promote agents' clients to try to get his flawed, agenda-driven information from agents.
It's a bottom line business. At the end of the day, will Hickey get good players and will Miami win. That's all that will matter. It won't matter whether Miami "got lucky" or if they preferred faux leaders like Dawson.
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It's interesting to watch how the season will unfold. Will we get over the hump and finish strong making the playoffs? Or will we flop like last year? Philbin has struggled in different ways his first 3 seasons in Miami. However he is getting better. The key is how patient will the organization be with Philbin? Can we win enough each year to give Philbin the chance to grow as a HC? Hickey and Philbin make a good pair but Philbin is growing slowly.