Matt Moore: Final Exam

[luduporcu]

Ye sounds about right, he is a good B/UP so i hope we keep him for another two years................

What an illogical statement! MOORE was rated the 12th best QB in the NFL last season, despite (1) no preseason worth mentioning; (2) COLUMBO-CAREY protecting (HA!) his right side; and (3) a sort-of "nice guy" HC who was nonetheless very UNready AS A HC. And as if by magic, MIAMI under MOORE's QBing-leadership becomes the 5th rated team in the NFL for pass completions over 20 Yards. When was the last time THAT happened?

For anyone who can't appreciate the significance of MOORE's rating of 12th best QB in the League, HERE IT IS: 20 NFL starting QBs were WORSE than MOORE. So, he's not---repeat NOT--- A BACK-UP QB!! Deal with it, my friends. Because ALL of the "football people" in the NFL now know what MOORE can do, even when he has an Albatross like COLUMBO-CAREY hanging around his neck and an unready HC like SPARANO to deal with. And he's a F/A after this season! MIAMI better also get smart, and quickly, and realize how good MOORE really is. And extend his Contract, AND PAY HIM. Otherwise, by mid-March 2013, all we'll have to show for it is more d**k up our butts...and another "song and dance" from ROSS, IRELAND & Co..

 

[miamiron]

What an illogical statement! MOORE was rated the 12th best QB in the NFL last season, despite (1) no preseason wotrth mentioning; (2) COLUMBO-CAREY protecting (HA!) his right side; and (3) a sort-of "nice guy" HC who was nonetheless very UNready AS A HC. And as if by magic, MIAMI under MOORE's leadership becomes the 5th rated team in the NFL for pass completions over 20 Yards. When was the last time THAT happened?

For anyone who can't appreciate the significance of MOORE's rating of 12th best QB in the League, HERE IT IS: 20 NFL starting QBs were WORSE than MOORE. So,...he's not---repeat NOT--- A BACK-UP QB!! Deal with it, my friends. Because ALL of the "football people" in the NFL now know what MOORE can do, even when he has an Albatross like COLUMBO-CAREY hanging around his neck and an unready HC like SPARANO to deal with. And he's a F/A after this season! MIAMI better also get smart, and quickly, and realize how good MOORE really is. And extend his Contract, AND PAY HIM. Otherwise, by mid-March 2013, all we'll have to show for it is more d**k up our butts...and another "song and dance" from ROSS & Co..

You do realize Moore DIDN'T beat a team that ended the season with a winning record

BEFORE WE CROWN HIM ELITE LETS SEE IF HE CAN BEAT A GOOD TEAM

 

[NoblePhin]

coming into the offseason he should really be focusing on pocket awareness. I really think that was his worst attribute last year, also doesn't help when you have Colombo getting manhandled and collapsing the whole pocket. What I see from Moore is a potential Alex Smith type revival. Someone who just needs some confidence, support, and a rigorous dedication to the small things ( both from Moore and the Coaching staff). Sparano and his staff was just bad at developing players, Sparano was in over his head and really doesn't have the background to develop qbs. This new staff seems so cerebral, it is going to definitely help out Moore IMO.

 

[Clipse]

0% and 30% and solid starter ain't good enough.

 

[mega-fin-love]

coming into the offseason he should really be focusing on pocket awareness. I really think that was his worst attribute last year, also doesn't help when you have Colombo getting manhandled and collapsing the whole pocket. What I see from Moore is a potential Alex Smith type revival. Someone who just needs some confidence, support, and a rigorous dedication to the small things ( both from Moore and the Coaching staff). Sparano and his staff was just bad at developing players, Sparano was in over his head and really doesn't have the background to develop qbs. This new staff seems so cerebral, it is going to definitely help out Moore IMO.

I would like to see what his pocket awareness looks like with a decent O-line. One would imagine that it would be a lot better. Not to mention he would have had a lot less fumbles in turn us winning more games

 

[mega-fin-love]

Run of the mill player, the type Jeff Ireland specializes in. Considerably more likely to regress than bloom.

I say that as someone who believes everything tends to drift back to the beginning. Several posts ago Drew Brees, Eli Manning and Aaron Rodgers were touted as quarterbacks who overcame rocky starts. Yeah, and they have a lot more in common with Mark Sanchez than Matt Moore. Sanchez as a premium first round pick is considerably more likely than journeyman Matt Moore to turn into something special. If you don't understand that you don't need to be speculating on anything. Any subjective slob can overreact to current form. It's the same mindset that insisted Tiger Woods would never win again.

I don't agree at all. There are a lot of first round QB's that only become good because their team didn't want to give up on them because they were such a high pick. Take Henne for example. We gave that guy years because he was a second rounder. Moore played better than Henne ever did last year but still no one respects him because he was a late round pick, and no one wants to give him a chance because we don't have a lot of money invested in him.

 

[finintheburgh]

What an illogical statement! MOORE was rated the 12th best QB in the NFL last season, despite (1) no preseason worth mentioning; (2) COLUMBO-CAREY protecting (HA!) his right side; and (3) a sort-of "nice guy" HC who was nonetheless very UNready AS A HC. And as if by magic, MIAMI under MOORE's QBing-leadership becomes the 5th rated team in the NFL for pass completions over 20 Yards. When was the last time THAT happened?

For anyone who can't appreciate the significance of MOORE's rating of 12th best QB in the League, HERE IT IS: 20 NFL starting QBs were WORSE than MOORE. So, he's not---repeat NOT--- A BACK-UP QB!! Deal with it, my friends. Because ALL of the "football people" in the NFL now know what MOORE can do, even when he has an Albatross like COLUMBO-CAREY hanging around his neck and an unready HC like SPARANO to deal with. And he's a F/A after this season! MIAMI better also get smart, and quickly, and realize how good MOORE really is. And extend his Contract, AND PAY HIM. Otherwise, by mid-March 2013, all we'll have to show for it is more d**k up our butts...and another "song and dance" from ROSS, IRELAND & Co..

your right the whole NFL saw what he can do and yet everyone of them thinks we need a qb above anything else. i havent seen one person say we are even ok at qb. even our own team and our former no1 wr said we desperatly need to up grade the position. im sorry but no team would want more over their current qb. we truely do have the worst qb situtation in the NFL. at least jacksonville has some hope in gabbert.

to call him a top 12 qb is a joke, how many qbs ranked below him would you really rather have.

 

[luduporcu]

Or perhaps we remember that 99.99% of backups never amount to anything other than backups or at best average starting QBs.

Which are the QBs that have had opportunities to start in 4 different seasons over 5 years and then became elite?

Not sure: BREES maybe?

 

[mega-fin-love]

your right the whole NFL saw what he can do and yet everyone of them thinks we need a qb above anything else. i havent seen one person say we are even ok at qb. even our own team and our former no1 wr said we desperatly need to up grade the position. im sorry but no team would want more over their current qb. we truely do have the worst qb situtation in the NFL. at least jacksonville has some hope in gabbert.

to call him a top 12 qb is a joke, how many qbs ranked below him would you really rather have.

I would not say he is top 12 just by his QB rating.......but he was by no means the worst starter last year. That's just crazy talk right there. I would take him over Sanchez, Tebow, Gabbert, Grossman, and Cassel easily and those are just the ones coming to me with out looking at all the names........worse than gabbert....gimme a break

 

[2413fanphins]

comical to even bring aaron rodgers into the discussion. he sat behind one of the best qbs to ever suit up, guy who holds records a plenty for qbs, and will be a surefire hall of famer...

of course he was a backup for awhile.

difference is, he didn't get hurt off and on, and lose the starting job time and time again, and has never lost the confidence of his coach or any players or fans for that matter.

 

[mega-fin-love]

comical to even bring aaron rodgers into the discussion. he sat behind one of the best qbs to ever suit up, guy who holds records a plenty for qbs, and will be a surefire hall of famer...

of course he was a backup for awhile.

difference is, he didn't get hurt off and on, and lose the starting job time and time again, and has never lost the confidence of his coach or any players or fans for that matter.

We know what the differences are and no one was comparing his skill set to that of Rodgers nor did anyone say that he would ever be that good. You can't just look at one sentence of a post and concentrate only on that part...................well unfortunately I guess you can.

 

[finintheburgh]

I would not say he is top 12 just by his QB rating.......but he was by no means the worst starter last year. That's just crazy talk right there. I would take him over Sanchez, Tebow, Gabbert, Grossman, and Cassel easily and those are just the ones coming to me with out looking at all the names........worse than gabbert....gimme a break

ill give you grossman, but hes not really a starter, thats why wash made the big trade

not sure about cassel he had a good year in 2010 earning a pro bowl, bad year last year but he has had good full seasons unlike moore

sanchez come on now, he went to the afc champ game in his first 2 years, he has shown the ability to lead game winning drives. not great but better than moore

gabbert was a rookie last year, rookies take time, not all rookies are great right off the bat. he has better tools than moore.

 

[luduporcu]

your right the whole NFL saw what he can do and yet everyone of them thinks we need a qb above anything else. i havent seen one person say we are even ok at qb. even our own team and our former no1 wr said we desperatly need to up grade the position. im sorry but no team would want more over their current qb. we truely do have the worst qb situtation in the NFL. at least jacksonville has some hope in gabbert.

to call him a top 12 qb is a joke, how many qbs ranked below him would you really rather have.

Do you make up your facts as you go along?

As to who thinks what, apparently Coach PHILBIN didn't think that FLYNN was an upgrade over MOORE. Ditto, as to a certain 49ers QB: both were there for the taking, and the money and capspace were there too, so that wasn't a problem. Whether you care to admit it or not, MIAMI didn't want to pay them their "asking price", which wasn't even "KOLB Money". And at least as to FLYNN, the reason why is that PHILBIN (who KNOWS what FLYNN can do) didn't think he could beat out MOORE in a fair competition. As to MANNING, ANYONE (except maybe teams having a BRADY, BREES or RODGERS etc.) would make THAT move. And any starting QB on such a team would have to either be OK w/"back-up" status, or willing to go elsewhere. (Just look at TEBOW)

As to the rest of the League's starting QBs, you are what your record says you are. Do you even for a minute think that COLUMBO-CAREY wasn't a problem that impacted MOORE, as well as MIAMI's "O" as a whole? And do you think that SPARANO was an NFL ready HC? How many of those NFL starters had all THAT to deal with?

Your arguments are shallow sophistry--kind of like quoting "the usual suspects" to prove a point, as if those people are flawless and clairvoyant. Someone let BREES get away. And someone let E MANNING go to the GIANTS. And someone actually CUT JOHNNY UNITAS! Fancy that!

As to B MARSHALL's opinion, HA! You would rely on HIM? All MOORE did for him was make him a deep threat again! Wow! Good argumantation, finintheburgh. Quoting an ingrate "head case"! Very persuasive...NOT!!!

 

[2413fanphins]

Im pretty sure philbin saw every.quarterback we interviewed as an upgrade at qb. Im not positive, but im 99%a sure at least ross and ireland publicly said we need a qb who can get us over the hump. Philbin may have even said something similar... but if you need to think philbin thinks flynn was onlu interviewed for camp fodder... do as you please... matt moore could have his hands full with garrard... think about that

 

[finintheburgh]

Do you make up your facts as you go along?

As to who thinks what, apparently Coach PHILBIN didn't think that FLYNN was an upgrade over MOORE. Ditto, as to a certain 49ers QB: both were there for the taking, and the money and capspace were there too, so that wasn't a problem. Whether you care to admit it or not, MIAMI didn't want to pay them their "asking price", which wasn't even "KOLB Money". And at least as to FLYNN, the reason why is that PHILBIN (who KNOWS what FLYNN can do) didn't think he could beat out MOORE in a fair competition. As to MANNING, ANYONE (except maybe teams having a BRADY, BREES or RODGERS etc.) would make THAT move. And any starting QB on such a team would have to either be OK w/"back-up" status, or willing to go elsewhere. (Just look at TEBOW)

As to the rest of the League's starting QBs, you are what your record says you are. Do you even for a minute think that COLUMBO-CAREY wasn't a problem that impacted MOORE, as well as MIAMI's "O" as a whole? And do you think that SPARANO was an NFL ready HC? How many of those NFL starters had all THAT to deal with?

Your arguments are shallow sophistry--kind of like quoting "the usual suspects" to prove a point, as if those people are flawless and clairvoyant. Someone let BREES get away. And someone let E MANNING go to the GIANTS. And someone actually CUT JOHNNY UNITAS! Fancy that!

if philbin was so conviced that moore was a good starter the why even have flynn and smith in for a visit.
ireland didnt feel that flynn was worth the money he wanted and smith wanted to return to sf, if manning would have signed there then we would have signed smith. we were trying to upgrade the pos it just didnt work out, hell we even signed garred not to backup moore but to compete with him.

and in case you didnt know philbin hasnt even seen moore throw a pass in his system, he doesnt know what he has in moore yet. you cant believe philbin likes moore when he hasnt even seen him practice.