Matt Moore history vs Pats

[Dolfan23]

I know that this is a different team, it's a different situation and all that... but you gotta love that Moore has had pretty good success against Belichick in 2 games as a starter.

In 2009 as QB for the Panthers they lost 20-10 to the 10-6 Patriots, who got smoked in the playoffs by the Ravens.
In 2011 the Phins lost 27-24 to the 13-3 Patriots who went on to lose the Super Bowl to the Giants.

Overall he's gone 31/62 for 478 yards, 4 TDs to 1 INT, 90.7 QB rating. He was sacked 7 times in those 2 games so I expect him to get pressured a lot in this weeks game.

Oh yeah and he's 10-6 in December and 2-0 in January in his career. Those are by far his best months so hopefully that trend continues.

 

[Blake the great]

Does anyone else get the feeling that its only a matter of time before Matt Moore completely implodes like a Fitzpatrick 4 or 5 INT type game? God, I hope that doesn't happen in the playoffs. Matt Moore was so inaccurate on a lot of throws against Buffalo and his WR's have really been bailing him out on a lot of plays. I about crap my pants every time I see Matt Moore throw those lollipop passes up for grabs, he's got away with it so far but against a good defense team, those passes could be easy INT's.

 

[Bob512]

Does anyone else get the feeling that its only a matter of time before Matt Moore completely implodes like a Fitzpatrick 4 or 5 INT type game? God, I hope that doesn't happen in the playoffs. Matt Moore was so inaccurate on a lot of throws against Buffalo and his WR's have really been bailing him out on a lot of plays. I about crap my pants every time I see Matt Moore throw those lollipop passes up for grabs, he's got away with it so far but against a good defense team, those passes could be easy INT's.

I get the feeling.....we have seen Moore do that previously, but I think that coaching will keep him grounded and on task and limit the risk taking.

We will get a good sense of that on Sunday as the Pats will likely have a lot of pressure on him to make decisions quickly.

In the win at Buffalo, I have read a number of accounts how Gase was pissed at an out route that Moore threw (the one where the receiver didn't go out of bounds) at the end of the game so then limited his passing in the OT period. Don't know how true that is, but my point is I think Gase keeps a very close eye on this and if he senses some reckless tendencies.....we will see the running game regardless of the situation.

 

[Kdawg954]

I get the feeling.....we have seen Moore do that previously, but I think that coaching will keep him grounded and on task and limit the risk taking.

We will get a good sense of that on Sunday as the Pats will likely have a lot of pressure on him to make decisions quickly.

In the win at Buffalo, I have read a number of accounts how Gase was pissed at an out route that Moore threw (the one where the receiver didn't go out of bounds) at the end of the game so then limited his passing in the OT period. Don't know how true that is, but my point is I think Gase keeps a very close eye on this and if he senses some reckless tendencies.....we will see the running game regardless of the situation.

When?

He literally had 1 real bad moment as a Fin . . . that was 2013 @ Buffalo . . . a game that was also Ryan Tannehill's worse game of his career.

 

[hoops]

Gase will limit the exposure with the play calling...if we end up chasing the scoreboard in the first half even there is potential for this

But i get the feeling gase knows the limitations and may stick with the run more regardless of results...just got to hope the pats arent denting the scoreboard

If you are new england scouting report is pretty simple...force him to make accurate throws underneath with zone coverages and read his eyes at the lb and safety levels...but you got to stop the run and thats where miamis chances come in...i have a feeling beli will be pretty prepared for that off tackle stuff

 

[phins_4_ever]

Does anyone else get the feeling that its only a matter of time before Matt Moore completely implodes like a Fitzpatrick 4 or 5 INT type game? God, I hope that doesn't happen in the playoffs. Matt Moore was so inaccurate on a lot of throws against Buffalo and his WR's have really been bailing him out on a lot of plays. I about crap my pants every time I see Matt Moore throw those lollipop passes up for grabs, he's got away with it so far but against a good defense team, those passes could be easy INT's.

Didn't like the answer in this thread?

Does anyone else get the feeling that its only a matter of time before Matt Moore completely implodes like a Fitzpatrick 4 or 5 INT type game? God, I hope that doesn't happen in the playoffs. Matt Moore was so inaccurate on a lot of throws against Buffalo and his WR's have really been bailing him out on a lot of plays. I about crap my pants every time I see Matt Moore throw those lollipop passes up for grabs, he's got away with it so far but against a good defense team, those passes could be easy INT's.

I mean he's never had more than 2 interceptions in any game as a Dolphin, let alone 4 or 5 . . . and he has started 14 games . . . so it would be an unlikely scenario. Certainly could happen if we got down and you had to start forcing throws . . . but Matt has a career 2 to 1 TD to INT ratio in a Fins uniform.

And Buffalo has the 7th ranked secondary in the NFL and Arizona had the 5th ranked secondary, I am not sure where this idea of him playing defenses that aren't very good is coming from.

And it is not like Ryan Tannehill has feasted on good defenses. Major struggles @ Baltimore, @ LA (last 6 minutes erased a pretty rough game offensively), @ Cincy and @ Sea (Kenny drop, but still it was a struggle for the most part), the team averaged 9 points scored in those 4 games . . . . so for Moore to go on the road in 2 late December division games with everything on the line and put up 6 TDs and 2 INTs and the team puts up 34 points in both games . . . not sure he is deserving of the doubt that some people are throwing his way.

Matt Moore's doubts is like the doubts people had about Chad Pennington. He doesn't have the physcial tools to be considered a guy who can lead a team to a Super Bowl . . . but he's a gamer and he gets rid of the ball . . . where Pennington was accurate, Moore pushes the ball down the field.

Ironically . . . with all the strong armed gun slingers we have attempted to bring in here, the 2 QBs that are likely to start playoff games for us in the last 15 years probably have the least amount of physical tools.

Just keep winning games. It does not have to be pretty.

 

[Yessir]

Why does it seem like a certain segment of finheaven posters want Matt Moore to implode so bad? Lmao what is going on?

 

[Blake the great]

Didn't like the answer in this thread?

I responded to that thread with....remember Pennington in the Ravens playoff game.....I have a gut feeling we could see similar results with Moore in the playoffs this year, I hope not.

 

[LANGER72]

I think Moore will take as many chances as necessary. If Gase limits him, then the Pats have already got the advantage.
The emphasis should be on running the ball and mid routes to the TE's. The pats have good corners, but our TEs can beat their LB's.
Having a great game by Landry will be crucial as well, making something out of those short dump off throws.
I think we can move the ball and score against them.
The bigger problem is stopping the Pats and preventing them from scoring. Our run defense is non existent and we are playing special team safeties.
Brady is going to feast of the middle of our defense. Hopefully we can make a couple big plays while the are rolling over us.

 

[phins_4_ever]

When?

He literally had 1 real bad moment as a Fin . . . that was 2013 @ Buffalo . . . a game that was also Ryan Tannehill's worse game of his career.

It was actually against the Jets in 2013. But you are right. This was his worst moment but he came also into the game for a couple of series to make chicken salad out of chicken ****. While it was his worst outing he also competed a 50 yarder on his first or second throw which doubled our entire offensive output that day - and that was in the 4th quarter.

I have no idea where where Dolfans get that bad picture of Moore. Whenever he played for us he did pretty darn good. No worse than most starting QBs and better than a good portion of starting QBs.
How often have I heard that our season is over if Moore has to come in and play. Not that it really mattered in the past as our seasons were usually over by Thanksgiving anyways. But I always argued that Moore is good to keep us in a playoff race for a handful of games while Tannehill recovers from an injury. I have the feeling that some rather risk the end of the playoff run as long as Moore fails rather than supporting the Dolphins.

I am so glad I will be surrounded by 60k Dolphins fans on Sunday who support the Miami Dolphins and all that pettiness from FH is forgotten. It is absolutely disturbing at times.

 

[phins_4_ever]

Why does it seem like a certain segment of finheaven posters want Matt Moore to implode so bad? Lmao what is going on?

I have no idea but it is quite disturbing. We are in the playoffs. After 8 years and bunch of **** coaches and seasons you figure people would be excited and simply root for the team. :idk:

 

[hoops]

Not to rain on the parade but that 50 yarder to hartline was highly due to the all out blitz which was a result of having a new qb in there and they expecting him to be rusty etc...no doubt he executed on the play

And he also threw 2 picks in like 7 passes after

As bill belichick says turnovers are the #1 reason you get beat in the postseason and moore has a reputation of some poor decision making and being turnover prone be it either with fumbles or errant/into coverage throws

Ball security is paramount in the postseason

All that said this is a better option than tj yates obviously

 

[Kdawg954]

Turnovers will absolutely beat you in the postseason. I think Matt Moore's first half INT in the Bills game is the type of play that Bill Belichek is talking about, and it was a really bad decision by Matt Moore and if I'm Adam Gase that is the first clip I had up in the film room this week.

But you also can't take comfort in playing safe when you are being destroyed at the LOS on offense and defense and just settle for taking sacks and not risking throws.

That 2013 game: 10 of 27 for 82 yards, 7 sacks, 0 TD, 0 INT . . . I take no comfort in the fact that Ryan did not throw an INT in that game. I respect Matt making that throw, getting blasted and connecting with Hartline . . . even if he threw an INT on the next play. We were dead fish in all phases and only the QB was going to give us a shot.

Now I fully believe a healthy 2016 version of Ryan Tannehill is obviously much more capable and would certainly give his team a better chance as a playmaker behind center, better than Matt Moore, but if he is hobbled in any way, I'm not confident that he is going to pick apart any defense from the pocket with limited mobility.

 

[Phinatic8u]

It was actually against the Jets in 2013. But you are right. This was his worst moment but he came also into the game for a couple of series to make chicken salad out of chicken ****. While it was his worst outing he also competed a 50 yarder on his first or second throw which doubled our entire offensive output that day - and that was in the 4th quarter.

I have no idea where where Dolfans get that bad picture of Moore. Whenever he played for us he did pretty darn good. No worse than most starting QBs and better than a good portion of starting QBs.
How often have I heard that our season is over if Moore has to come in and play. Not that it really mattered in the past as our seasons were usually over by Thanksgiving anyways. But I always argued that Moore is good to keep us in a playoff race for a handful of games while Tannehill recovers from an injury. I have the feeling that some rather risk the end of the playoff run as long as Moore fails rather than supporting the Dolphins.

I am so glad I will be surrounded by 60k Dolphins fans on Sunday who support the Miami Dolphins and all that pettiness from FH is forgotten. It is absolutely disturbing at times.

I'm jealous I can't be right next to you screaming that we beat on the Pats.

Moore, Tannehill, Obi Wan Kenobi. Doesn't matter to me who the qb is. Just win the damn game.

 

[DolfanISS]

I get the feeling.....we have seen Moore do that previously, but I think that coaching will keep him grounded and on task and limit the risk taking.

We will get a good sense of that on Sunday as the Pats will likely have a lot of pressure on him to make decisions quickly.

In the win at Buffalo, I have read a number of accounts how Gase was pissed at an out route that Moore threw (the one where the receiver didn't go out of bounds) at the end of the game so then limited his passing in the OT period. Don't know how true that is, but my point is I think Gase keeps a very close eye on this and if he senses some reckless tendencies.....we will see the running game regardless of the situation.

He may have done that in Carolina but we've never seen that. I don't know the highest amount of INT's Moore's thrown in a game as a Dolphin but it sure as hell isn't 5.


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