Matt Prater is why we are talking about McCoy as a possible head coach

[dolphinators13]

Not saying McCoy can’t become a good NFL head coach but honestly think about it. Matt Prater misses a kick or two. The Broncos don’t have that miracle of a comeback against us and recover and onside kick. Marion Barber stays inbounds and the Bears seal the game. The Broncos record would sit at 6-10 or 5-11 honestly. Winning a couple of the games I watched had nothing to do with play calling or making great adjustments for Tebow.

I compare this situation to when we won the division with Sparano. We won a lot of close games with his philosophy of football and didn’t turn the ball over. We all know how that turned out the next seasons with that philosophy. The point is we won a lot of games Sparano’s first year that were close and could have gone either way and mostly they were against poor competition. That could be said for the Broncos this year as well.

Again, I am not implying that McCoy can’t become a good head coach. However, the Broncos won a couple of games based off luck and Matt Prater and IMO nothing to do with playing calling. Do you think we would be interviewing McCoy if the Broncos finished 6-10 or 5-11?

Out of the 3 candidates I would take Philbin. The only reason is he knows what a winning offense in the NFL looks like. He has been around a high powered offense for years and I would think he would want to instill that philosophy to the Dolphins.

 

[Tunaphish429]

I cant say that I am a huge Mccoy fan and really whoever I head coach is its about the players that play for him, but Mccoy has proven to me that he knows how to use players strenghts and build around those players. Tebow is a horrible qb, he took him and installed a system in a matter of weeks and it produced for him. Maybe not as many points as you would like to see but the broncos were the best running team in the league and before that with Orton they were passing the ball pretty well.

 

[MD]

Philbin has also had Aaron Rodgers while McCoy dealt with Orton and Tebow.

 

[silver McNibblets]

The reason Denver made the playoffs this season is because they had a good defense. Their D was good enough to keep them in games until Tebow eventually executed something well. Mike McCoy isn't the Denver co-ordinator we should be looking at IMO.

 

[Lee2000]

On the field performance is one factor, but there are many others. The candidate must be organized, flexible, motivator, and general leader of men. McCoy is known as a good motivator, but don't know much about Philbin's abilities there. Bowles did lead men for three games and they did pretty well under the circumstances. I see too many judgements based on coordinator duties. That is important, but the duties we are talking about are so different. It is quite possible one of these guys will be a better head coach than coordinator.

 

[Joeb9]

I think the op may be on to something here.

 

[islandah]

My problem with McCoy is that the main argument for him seems to be that he so wisely changed the offense to suit Tebow. Well, no offense, but what choice did he have? Wouldn't any coordinator have done the same thing? He was forced by the fans and his own inept offense under Orton to play him, and clearly trying to force him into a conventional offense couldn't work. So I give him little to no credit for that. So, what else has he done that qualifies him?

 

[dolphinators13]

My problem with McCoy is that the main argument for him seems to be that he so wisely changed the offense to suit Tebow. Well, no offense, but what choice did he have? Wouldn't any coordinator have done the same thing? He was forced by the fans and his own inept offense under Orton to play him, and clearly trying to force him into a conventional offense couldn't work. So I give him little to no credit for that. So, what else has he done that qualifies him?

100% agree

 

[dolfaneric12]

My problem with McCoy is that the main argument for him seems to be that he so wisely changed the offense to suit Tebow. Well, no offense, but what choice did he have? Wouldn't any coordinator have done the same thing? He was forced by the fans and his own inept offense under Orton to play him, and clearly trying to force him into a conventional offense couldn't work. So I give him little to no credit for that. So, what else has he done that qualifies him?

He could have been stubborn and said "I'm running MY offense." It's hard for a coordinator to change his whole entire offense and create a new one to satisfy one player. More impressive he did this at Week 6 during the season. A lot of experts believe the option play wouldn't work in the NFL and this guy got his players to buy into the system and he made it work. I actually give this guy a lot of credit for what he did with one of the worst quarterbacks in the NFL (although I do like Tebow).

 

[Jersey DolFan]

McCoy knows how to utilize a roster - he can switch an entire offense to suit whoever is on the field. and he is young. plus he has had success, he did well in carolina too.

imo, philbin is the product of a winning system and he doesnt even call his own plays. to go after philbin as the result of one great season by GB is a huge mistake imo, we saw this with the pats - almost none of their assistants panned out. go with a guy who actually Runs and designs and calls the plays for his offense. go with the young gun - go with mccoy.

 

[dhunt1023]

The reason Denver made the playoffs this season is because they had a good defense. Their D was good enough to keep them in games until Tebow eventually executed something well. Mike McCoy isn't the Denver co-ordinator we should be looking at IMO.

So week one wasnt a bad enough beating you want to hire the dc whose defense just gave up 45 to the pats? The truth is very few us know anything about the candidates except what we find on the Internet. We are not in the interviews and if we were who knows what are feelings would be. Non of us are going to stop following this team as evident by the fact that we take time out of our lives to visit a fan website! So let's take a break from the empty threats and crazy hysteria and throw our support behind whoever gets hired until we have a substantial body of work to judge him on...just a thought

 

[Etuoo33]

McCoy was having to learn elements of that O from Tebow himself. Don't know what that has to do with anything but I threw it out there.

 

[enduro]

Don Shulas greatest strength was his ability to take the hand he was dealt and make the most of it. This is how he consistantly won. This seems to be a trait McCoy has. You want a young Shula, well here you go.

 

[Danny]

I think everyone is making too much about which guy did what with his unit.I'm in the restaurant business. I am a KM at the moment. I have seen guys that were not very good KM's gone on to be great GM's. Their background was not really the kitchen but they had to be KM's first in order to move on. Once they became GM's they did a great job. Well, sometimes is the same with a coordinator. You can't compare with guy with the other based only on what his unit did as they both have different players and a different HC over them.We're not in to all the info about all 3 guys.At this point to think that one will be better than the other based only on what each has done on the team they're on now makes no sense.That's why I will be fine with any of the 3 guys. I don't know which one is the right guy and neither does anybody else on this board. All we need to do is wait and give the guy a chance.

Ozzy rules!!

 

[SnakeoilSeller]

Great point by Danny. Productive Coordinators don't necessarily make great HC's. They are looking for a certain "it" quality. The year Mike McCarthy got the Green Bay job he was the coordinator in San Fran, his offense was 31st ranked that year. He seems to have done ok as HC in Green Bay though. Wade Phillips seems to be a very good defensive coordinator, horrible HC. There are many more qualities and characteristics that are needed for a successful HC, other than how good his offense/defense was the previous season.