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"Maxwell? Kiko? Mario? This Is Madness!" "Madness?...THIS! IS! GAAAAAASE!"

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Yes, yes, yes, we are all a bit taken aback/coping with the Dolphins deals thus far. Let's put that aside for a second.



I want to focus on WHY the deals we've seen got done. People are blankly assigning these deals to Tannenbaum because they appear moronic (and I don't blame people for that), but the fact is these moves point to input from his new coaches Adam Gase and Vance Joseph. -Especially Gase, and here's why:


Both Gase and Joseph said when they were hired that they pride themselves on gearing their sides of the ball to the personnel they have, putting the players in the best positions to succeed by playing to players' strengths. This inherently implies an "I'm smarter than you are" attitude to other coaches in feeling they can get more out of players simply by properly scheming around them. I have absolutely no idea if this is true, but it was around the 500th time I heard Gase say this that it became obvious this is a core aspect of his identity the team's identity moving forward.


So, if you are a coach who thinks he can transform a player simply by putting them in a situation they have had prior success in, who do you target? Maybe...


Byron Maxwell - A successful zone corner in Seattle put into a man scheme in Philly. He has one bad year and is called a bust. Dolphins want to put him back into zone scheme.

Kiko Alonso - A successful MLB moved to OLB, then injured. He has one bad year when he is able to play again and is labelled "a shell of his past self". Theoretically Dolphins want to put him back at MLB, where he was a stud.


Mario Williams - A DE who was forced in Rex Ryan's scheme to drop back into coverage and do less straight rushing the QB. He has one bad year, and is labelled "Lazy". Dolphins want to use him as their primary pass rush specialist.


Now, none of this is to say ANY of this is going to be successful, but it at least shifts the thinking from "Tannenbaum did this all alone because he has the IQ of a bug" to thinking that's more in line with what Gase has repeated about himself over and over. He believes himself a "player optimizer", and with limited options out there for some major holes on defense, these are his "wounded animal" rehabilitation projects.


We will see VERY early on in the season just how good Gase's method is for reviving players to their past glories. I'm now scouring the remaining free agent market with this thinking in mind, trying to predict who the Dolphins will target. Spotlight is on players who were successful 2 years ago, had "one bad year"...but were in different schemes for that year. There is a common thread here, gentlemen.


Flawed as it may seem on the surface, there IS some method being deployed behind this madness. Fingers crossed it works out. Lord knows this team needs to win at some point within our lifetimes.
 
I admit I was a tad pessimistic about the trade. However, I'm willing to give Maxwell a shot in Josephs system before banging my head against the wall.

Like the Alonso part of the deal, and the Williams signing is a good short term fix at DE.
 
Well they aren't making these moves for ****s and giggles
 
Byron Maxwell - A successful zone corner in Seattle put into a man scheme in Philly. He has one bad year and is called a bust. Dolphins want to put him back into zone scheme.


Seattle doesn't play zone coverage. . .

We'll play a mixture of both depending on the game plan.
 
So why not mortgage our future on 3 guys who had terrible years last year! NFL players are known for having down years and coming back strong right lol
 
Looking forward to the potential in Alonso
I'm coming around on Mario
Don't like the Vernon leaving but at the rumored prices had to be done
Not happy at all with the deal for Maxwell, should have just went after Kiko
Going to be devastated losing Miller
Waiting on the Grimes release
 
Coach isn't the GM. Sure he likely had input, but people blaming someone for something that's not their job is silly, though it happens time and time again around here.
 
Looking forward to the potential in Alonso
I'm coming around on Mario
Don't like the Vernon leaving but at the rumored prices had to be done
Not happy at all with the deal for Maxwell, should have just went after Kiko
Going to be devastated losing Miller
Waiting on the Grimes release

Agree with all of this. -Especially excited about the Grimes release. I really, really cannot stand the garbage he brought on and off the field.
 
Looking forward to the potential in Alonso
I'm coming around on Mario
Don't like the Vernon leaving but at the rumored prices had to be done
Not happy at all with the deal for Maxwell, should have just went after Kiko
Going to be devastated losing Miller
Waiting on the Grimes release

Think there is a good chance grimes gets traded, unless the FO decides to do a favor for him and his agent by releasing him.

If you need a quality cornerback on a short term basis, Grimes is really your only option. cornerback market is still very strong.
 
Tell you one thing- I like this approach so much better than overpaying for guys "in their prime" like Ellerbe and Wallace. None of these guys come with crazy contracts that handcuff the FO for a decade.
 
Think there is a good chance grimes gets traded, unless the FO decides to do a favor for him and his agent by releasing him.

If you need a quality cornerback on a short term basis, Grimes is really your only option. cornerback market is still very strong.

Doubtful, The NFL knows he is getting released today.
 
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